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Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 26th, 2011, 6:42 pm
by Ferd Berfel
Shocks still in a good position I think.


I don't know I don't have a lot of confidence in the rest of the pitching staff.

Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 26th, 2011, 7:05 pm
by MVCfans
Little Eddie wrote:Dude was definitely safe at 3rd...we'll never know what would have happened I guess. Shocks still in a good position I think.


A few in the press box thought he was safe. Others that he was out. There has to be a slow motion replay somewhere on this isn't there?

Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 26th, 2011, 8:56 pm
by Snaggletooth
MVCfans wrote:
Little Eddie wrote:Dude was definitely safe at 3rd...we'll never know what would have happened I guess. Shocks still in a good position I think.


A few in the press box thought he was safe. Others that he was out. There has to be a slow motion replay somewhere on this isn't there?


everybody who I have heard who seen the video was "safe'". Of course Shocks should never have put themselves in that position to leave it up to a umpire. That is the way baseball goes sometimes. On to tomorrow.

Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 27th, 2011, 8:41 am
by Little Eddie
Snaggletooth wrote:
MVCfans wrote:
Little Eddie wrote:Dude was definitely safe at 3rd...we'll never know what would have happened I guess. Shocks still in a good position I think.


A few in the press box thought he was safe. Others that he was out. There has to be a slow motion replay somewhere on this isn't there?


everybody who I have heard who seen the video was "safe'". Of course Shocks should never have put themselves in that position to leave it up to a umpire. That is the way baseball goes sometimes. On to tomorrow.


I think the angle from the camera is much better than the one the umpire had...at least from what i could tell...ump appeared to be in foul territory so his vision of the Shocker foot hitting the bag before the Syc defender may have been blocked some by the Syc 3rd baseman.

Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 27th, 2011, 8:57 am
by DUBulldog
Little Eddie wrote:
Snaggletooth wrote:
MVCfans wrote:A few in the press box thought he was safe. Others that he was out. There has to be a slow motion replay somewhere on this isn't there?


everybody who I have heard who seen the video was "safe'". Of course Shocks should never have put themselves in that position to leave it up to a umpire. That is the way baseball goes sometimes. On to tomorrow.


I think the angle from the camera is much better than the one the umpire had...at least from what i could tell...ump appeared to be in foul territory so his vision of the Shocker foot hitting the bag before the Syc defender may have been blocked some by the Syc 3rd baseman.


So, the ump was out of position?

Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 27th, 2011, 10:13 am
by MVCfans
From Indiana State writer Todd Golden's Todd Golden - Down in the Valley, which I would encourage everyone to read.

Controversy! Stucky hit a sharp grounder to third base. Kraemer didn’t have a play at first, so he tried to beat pinch runner Tyler Coughenour to third for a force. In a bang-bang play, third base umpire Wayne Harris called Coughenour out.

It appeared pretty clear watching it live that Coughenour was safe.

Needless to say, Stephenson went ballistic in the coaches’ box as did Coughenour. But the call stood and ISU survives to Friday for a rematch with the Shockers. FINAL 7-6.

I talked to Stephenson after the game. I asked if Harris offered to consult with his crew on the call and a clearly angry Stephenson said Harris didn’t say anything at all.

I watched a replay here in the press box. Watching it live, I thought Coughenour was clearly safe. But the replay was a lot closer than I thought. I still think Coughenour was safe, but by no more than a sliver.

Unfortunately for Harris, the play developed in a way that he was at a poor angle to make the call. Another factor I didn’t pick up on until I saw the replay … Harris was in the sun and third base was in the shadows.

Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 27th, 2011, 10:23 am
by Ferd Berfel
As said before it is the Shockers own fault for letting a play like that decide the game.

They take business and take care of the ball and the game is not close and they are in the final game.

Gene needs to be mad at his team and not the ump.

Re: MVC baseball tourney Game 11 - Indiana St vs Wichita St

PostPosted: May 27th, 2011, 10:34 am
by iSASO
It's just like a basketball team that misses free throws and loses on a tough call. The Shockers are who they are and Sycamores are who they are. You cannot give away 5 unearned runs and expect to win, even if the call was blown. That's why this is the worst Shocker team in 25 years. Simply an embarrassment.