All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby TheObserver » February 27th, 2017, 10:53 am

Marshall doesn't win the award when he beats the league by 4 games. He's certainly not going to win with a co-championship.
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby All-MVC Fan » February 27th, 2017, 11:10 am

This is a wide-open field for many of the awards, although I'd say FOY is Shamet's. If not, and he doesn't win one of the other awards, that would be a travesty.

COY is the interesting one. Obviously, it's between Marshall and Muller. Do you give it to the guy who out performed preseason expectations, or the one whose team improved greatly during the season, becoming a juggernaut for the last few weeks? It's a legit question. Do trends in the program mean anything? Once again, a legit question.

I have no idea how the award will go. I could give it to either coach, although some of the issues with Muller's program would cloud my vote for him, if I had one. Marshall runs an impressively clean program, and to me, that's important.

But either guy deserves it. Maybe co-COY's for the co-champions? :huh:
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby LanceShock » February 27th, 2017, 11:56 am

I think IlSU losing MM and continuing beat everybody except WSU tips this award to Muller, especially since there does appear to be some anti-Marshall bias.
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby Redbirds4Life » February 27th, 2017, 12:49 pm

Player of the Year - Paris Lee - Illinois State
Freshman of the Year - Landry Shamet - Wichita State
Coach of the Year - Dirty Dan - Illinois State
Defensive Player of the Year - Zack Brown - Wichita State
Newcomer of the Year - Alize Johnson - Missouri State
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby Cdizzle » February 27th, 2017, 1:16 pm

What I think will happen:
POY: Lee
FOY: Shamet
NOY: Johnson
DPOY: Wills
COY: Muller

What I think should happen:
POY: Shamet
FOY: Shamet
NOY: Johnson
DPOY: Wills
COY: Marshall

I have a virtual tie between Wills/Brown for DPOY, and Marshall/Muller for COY. I split the difference.

How I would vote if I could vote for all 10 teams:
POY: (1)Shamet (2)Lee (3)McDuffie
FOY: (1)Shamet (2)Brown (3)Bar
NOY: (1)Johnson (2)Shamet (3)Willis
DPOY: (1)Wills (2)Z. Brown (3)Lee
COY: (1)Marshall (2)Muller (3)Wardle

I would replace Lee with McIntosh if McIntosh had missed a couple games less. Which is an admittedly arbitrary ruling, but I think it matters a little bit for conference POY voting. I would still have McIntosh on my 1st Team with the 3 I voted for POY.

How I would vote if I couldn't vote for WSU:
POY: (1)Lee (2)McIntosh (3)Morgan
FOY: (1)Brown (2)Bar (3)Hodgson
NOY: (1)Johnson (2)Jackson (3)Fayne
DPOY: (1)Wills (2)Lee (3)Bol
COY: (1)Muller (2)Wardle (3)Blank

If it is a requirement to pick a 3rd Coach, I would contemplate not submitting a ballot. Gun to my head, probably Moser.
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby 2livewu » February 27th, 2017, 1:28 pm

Should be:

POY: Shamet
DPOY: Lee
NCOY: Johnson
FOY: Shamet
COY: Muller

Will be:

POY: Lee
NCOY: Johnson
DPOY: Brown (should be Wills if not Lee)
FOY: Shamet (very, very close with Brown)
COY: Muller (closer than people would expect with Marshall)
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby Redbirds4Life » February 27th, 2017, 1:29 pm

Cdizzle wrote:What I think will happen:
POY: Lee
FOY: Shamet
NOY: Johnson
DPOY: Wills
COY: Muller

What I think should happen:
POY: Shamet
FOY: Shamet
NOY: Johnson
DPOY: Wills
COY: Marshall

I have a virtual tie between Wills/Brown for DPOY, and Marshall/Muller for COY. I split the difference.

How I would vote if I could vote for all 10 teams:
POY: (1)Shamet (2)Lee (3)McDuffie
FOY: (1)Shamet (2)Brown (3)Bar
NOY: (1)Johnson (2)Shamet (3)Willis
DPOY: (1)Wills (2)Z. Brown (3)Lee
COY: (1)Marshall (2)Muller (3)Wardle

I would replace Lee with McIntosh if McIntosh had missed a couple games less. Which is an admittedly arbitrary ruling, but I think it matters a little bit for conference POY voting. I would still have McIntosh on my 1st Team with the 3 I voted for POY.

How I would vote if I couldn't vote for WSU:
POY: (1)Lee (2)McIntosh (3)Morgan
FOY: (1)Brown (2)Bar (3)Hodgson
NOY: (1)Johnson (2)Jackson (3)Fayne
DPOY: (1)Wills (2)Lee (3)Bol
COY: (1)Muller (2)Wardle (3)Blank

If it is a requirement to pick a 3rd Coach, I would contemplate not submitting a ballot. Gun to my head, probably Moser.


Realistically, I think you can make a pretty strong case for 4 of the 5, excluding Freshman of the Year. That award is a virtual lock for Shamet. The other 4, you can make a good case for more than one person. Should be interesting to see what happens.
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby Cdizzle » February 27th, 2017, 1:33 pm

Redbirds4Life wrote:
Realistically, I think you can make a pretty strong case for 4 of the 5, excluding Freshman of the Year. That award is a virtual lock for Shamet. The other 4, you can make a good case for more than one person. Should be interesting to see what happens.

I agree. Although I will say; I often rail against the 'green ribbon' attitude, but with Shamet being what should be a near unanimous FOY and 1st Team, I would give NOY to Johnson. If you remove Shamet from NOY, Johnson seems like another lock.

The other 3 I think you can make reasonable arguments for at least 2 people, and I think this year someone legitimately in those arguments will win the awards.
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby Cdizzle » February 27th, 2017, 2:08 pm

WSU beat writer's ballot: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wi ... 50779.html

Interesting comment about not wanting to do COY voting in the future.

ISUb beat writer's ballot: http://www.tribstar.com/sports/down-in- ... edb66.html
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Re: All Award Winners for MVC Predictions (before Tuesday)

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 27th, 2017, 4:41 pm

Cdizzle wrote:WSU beat writer's ballot: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wi ... 50779.html

Interesting comment about not wanting to do COY voting in the future.

ISUb beat writer's ballot: http://www.tribstar.com/sports/down-in- ... edb66.html


Do they all post their picks or just some beat writers?
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