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I wanted to post this again for everyone. This is the best site for exploring the NET for the Valley and for teams individually.

https://bracketologists.com/conference/MVC

Goes to show how much the NET really benefits the P5. BU is the top of the MVC NET for the primary reason they played 5 Q1 teams. Doesn't matter if you beat them or not, the fact that you play them is weighed heavily. This is why a below .500 conference record B1G team will get an at-large over BU. More games against Q1+Q2, even if they lose a majority of them.

Adunk33 wrote:Goes to show how much the NET really benefits the P5. BU is the top of the MVC NET for the primary reason they played 5 Q1 teams. Doesn't matter if you beat them or not, the fact that you play them is weighed heavily. This is why a below .500 conference record B1G team will get an at-large over BU. More games against Q1+Q2, even if they lose a majority of them.

It benefits non P6 teams that play good non conference schedules.

Bradley didn't win one game against those teams and its NET is still good. Can't win those games if you don't schedule them.

tribecalledquest wrote:
Bradley didn't win one game against those teams and its NET is still good. Can't win those games if you don't schedule them.

It's really unfortunate too as Bradley played 3 of these games with a bunch of players missing. Bradley's opener @ Utah State was without Mast.

Then the MTE Tournament games against both Auburn and Liberty, they played without Mast, Zek Montgomery, and Ja'shon Henry.

That's 3 opportunities missed.

tribecalledquest wrote:

Adunk33 wrote:Goes to show how much the NET really benefits the P5. BU is the top of the MVC NET for the primary reason they played 5 Q1 teams. Doesn't matter if you beat them or not, the fact that you play them is weighed heavily. This is why a below .500 conference record B1G team will get an at-large over BU. More games against Q1+Q2, even if they lose a majority of them.

It benefits non P6 teams that play good non conference schedules.

Bradley didn't win one game against those teams and its NET is still good. Can't win those games if you don't schedule them.

Agree for MVC level. You can't win the games if you don't schedule them. My point is that they are already built in for the P5 via conference schedule. So, when the league schedule comes out for say, the B1G, Minnesota automatically has 10-15 Q1/Q2 games before even thinking about noncon.

So by my quick counting here is the number of OOC Q1 games per each team


Bradley 4
Drake 1
Indiana State 0
Belmont 0
SIU 1
Mo St 2
No Iowa 0
Murray St 1
Illinois St 0
Valpo 0
UIC 1
E'ville 1


Number of OOC Q4 games per team

Bradley 4
Drake 3
Indiana St 7
Belmont 2
SIU 6
Mo St 4
No Iowa 3
Murray St 4
Ill St 7
Valpo 5
UIC 8
E'ville 6

Adunk33 wrote:Goes to show how much the NET really benefits the P5. BU is the top of the MVC NET for the primary reason they played 5 Q1 teams. Doesn't matter if you beat them or not, the fact that you play them is weighed heavily. This is why a below .500 conference record B1G team will get an at-large over BU. More games against Q1+Q2, even if they lose a majority of them.

Another big factor for Bradley's NET being where it is despite being 0-5 in Q1 wins is that Bradley has not lost to teams they should beat. They have just one loss to a team currently below NET 119 (at Murray State).

UNI had a Q1 game canceled due to the shooting at Virginia. That was before Heise got hurt, fwiw.

The NET is all geared toward 5 conferences. Go though the top 5 teams in any mid major conference. Their RPI will be better than their NET often by 20 points. Go through the top 5 teams in any P5 conference, the Net will be better than RPI by a significant amount (30 per team in the Big 12). Net is designed to guarantee 7 or 8 teams from those conferences and to limit other conferences to one. Bradley somehow getting 5 games against those teams only further serves to illustrate the point. Losing to 5 of those teams has boosted their NET so it is only 9 worse than their RPI. Drake only getting one of those games and winning leaves their NET 30 worse than their RPI. RPI has no upfront built in bias. NET does.

Bottom line is we need to schedule better. Wardle did a good job this year but didn’t cash in on the opps unfortunately.