When your team plays a big state school at home...

[MoValley John]

SEMO and UMKC are RPI killers for us. Having them on a perpetual home and home arrangement would hurt the strength of schedule. Exactly why we're playing a D-2 this weekend. The spot was vacated and the only D-1 options available were RPI killers, so may as well just play the D-2 and not hurt your SOS.

Mizzou can't say the same about us hurting their RPI. In fact we'd boost their non-conference strength of schedule.

So Missouri State doesn't play any cupcakes? Missouri State doesn't play any RPI killers? Didn't you guys just do a roadie at Arkansas State?

My point is, every team has cupcakes, even Duke and North Carolina. Why not schedule instate cupcakes? If nothing else, it allows MSU fans all over the state to attend a game. while not a home game, playing in Kansas City every other year would probably make the MSU alums in the area very happy.

[MSUDuo]

SEMO and UMKC are RPI killers for us. Having them on a perpetual home and home arrangement would hurt the strength of schedule. Exactly why we're playing a D-2 this weekend. The spot was vacated and the only D-1 options available were RPI killers, so may as well just play the D-2 and not hurt your SOS.

Mizzou can't say the same about us hurting their RPI. In fact we'd boost their non-conference strength of schedule.

So Missouri State doesn't play any cupcakes? Missouri State doesn't play any RPI killers? Didn't you guys just do a roadie at Arkansas State?

My point is, every team has cupcakes, even Duke and North Carolina. Why not schedule instate cupcakes? If nothing else, it allows MSU fans all over the state to attend a game. while not a home game, playing in Kansas City every other year would probably make the MSU alums in the area very happy.

Arkansas State won their division in the Sun Belt last year and was picked to win the SB this year. I don't believe they finished the in 300s in the RPI last year. The 300 RPI teams we get are a part of the tourney we are in; get 2 good games in Vegas, take 2 bad games at home.

Looking at past schedules, it seems we do schedule one RPI killer on our own. The others have come as a part of a tournament, like this year.

With that said, I do get what you are saying but his point was that we can't afford the RPI killer like UNC and Duke can. That's why we took a D2 game this Saturday instead of a RPI killer which was available.

[uniftw]

Arkansas st finished last season in the bottom half of the rpi

[MSUDuo]

Arkansas st finished last season in the bottom half of the rpi

Yep. 178. Hardly an RPI killer

[MoValley John]

And Mizzou boatraced Niagra tonight in a half-empty gym. Just as well they played SEMO.

There are a hundred excuses why Mizzou won't play you guys and there are a hundred excuses why MSU won't play SEMO. None of them are good for basketball and none of them are good for the fans.

[Bluejay09Bear06]

Until UMKC and SEMO can produce consistent years in the top half of the RPI, UMC, MSU, and SLU have NO obligation to play them. Just as I didn't expect UMC and SLU to play MSU until they demonstrated that they are a year-in, year-out contender, there is no reason for the top programs in the state to dent their RPI and slum it with the low majors in the state.

Now, if UMKC had Oral Roberts or Detroit's profile, or SEMO had Murray or Morehead's profile, we would be talking about a different story and I think an in-state round-robin would be called for. But saying UMC is to MSU what MSU is to SEMO is ridiculous. The numbers speak for themselves.

NOTE: yes I undertand that the three top programs in the state schedule trash 300+ RPI home cupcakes every year, and in that sense we may as well schedule in-state. But that is not the question presented.

[BearChief]

And Mizzou boatraced Niagra tonight in a half-empty gym. Just as well they played SEMO.

There are a hundred excuses why Mizzou won't play you guys and there are a hundred excuses why MSU won't play SEMO. None of them are good for basketball and none of them are good for the fans.

First of all, we do play UMKC and SEMO, and when we do, it's a home and home. But being roped into playing a perpetual home and home with them is WAY too much. It's almost like guaranteeing yourself a weak SOS. As Duo mentioned, the only cupcakes we have on the schedule this year were a necessary evil in order to get quality games in the Las Vegas Classic.

Conversely, Mizzou won't play us at all. In fact, they won't even take a 2 for 1. Their best offer was their own ridiculous version of a 2 for 1 which involved two games at their place and 1 game at a neutral site. That's a slap in the face and it just proves how afraid their administration is.