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Re: Official MVCfans.com Prediction - 3rd Place

PostPosted: October 3rd, 2010, 2:27 pm
by MoValley John
unipanther99 wrote:
snoopj wrote:Just for reference, because I have a ton of stats available to me, I put the overall road records (including out of conference play) into this list. Here's the results from 2005-06 to 2009-10:

1) UNI 36-27 (0.571)
2) SIU 28-37 (0.431)
3) CU 26-37 (0.413)
4) DU 24-35 (0.407)
5) BU 26-42 (0.382)
6) WSU 22-38 (0.367)
7) MSU 24-42 (0.364)
8) Ill. State 23-41 (0.359)
9) Ind. State 18-51 (0.261)
10) UE 12-55 (0.179)

Don't know if you were looking for just conference play, but all I had was out of conference immediately available.


This really suprised me. I guess I figured UNI would be up there, but I thought a few other teams would be at least close.


Until last year I think Creighton might have been. Not counting the 0-1 in St. Louis, Creighton went 3-13 on the road last year, that will put a huge dent in any team's record. The only games Creighton won away from home last year were against Bradley, Evansville and Southern Illinois. Ouch, that'l leave a mark!!!

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 3rd, 2010, 4:56 pm
by valleychamp
Those numbers are pretty eye popping. I wouldn't have thought it would be that much of a gap either.

But UNI has been unbelievable on the road in the last two seasons. I think we have only lost 4 MVC road games in two years.

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 3rd, 2010, 10:31 pm
by Snapshot9
Valleychamp - you are quite a bit wrong on the 4 road games lost the last 2 seasons. Here's the stats from the 08-09 season alone with 7 road losses to MVC opponents.

http://www.unipanthers.com/sports/w-baskbl/stats/2008-2009/teamstat.html

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 3rd, 2010, 10:37 pm
by WSUbballer
Snapshot9 wrote:Valleychamp - you are quite a bit wrong on the 4 road games lost the last 2 seasons. Here's the stats from the 08-09 season alone with 7 road losses to MVC opponents.

http://www.unipanthers.com/sports/w-baskbl/stats/2008-2009/teamstat.html


That's a link to the UNI women's basketball stats.. :oops:


It is interesting to note that WSU has accounted for half of UNI's 4 road losses over the last 2 years.

Re: Official MVCfans.com Prediction - 3rd Place

PostPosted: October 4th, 2010, 6:21 am
by snoopj
MoValley John wrote:Until last year I think Creighton might have been. Not counting the 0-1 in St. Louis, Creighton went 3-13 on the road last year, that will put a huge dent in any team's record. The only games Creighton won away from home last year were against Bradley, Evansville and Southern Illinois. Ouch, that'l leave a mark!!!


Actually, the record was 3-10 away from home. I think you might be counting some neutral court losses as away (11/26/09, Michigan 76-83; 11/27/09, Xavier 67-80; 11/29/09, Iona 55-63...Old Spice Classic in Orlando).

Also, in the course of the 5 years requested, Creighton only had one season of above .500 on the road. 08-09 with a 8-4 record. Two 5-8s and a 5-7 for the other years (along with the 3-10 from 09-10).

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 4th, 2010, 9:23 am
by snoopj
All right. Revised conference road records from 2005-06 to 2009-10:

1) UNI 26-19 (0.578)
2) CREI 22-23 (0.489)
3) SIU 19-26 (0.422)
4) BRAD 17-28 (0.378)
5) DRKE 15-30 (0.333)
5) MOST 15-30 (0.333)
7) ILST 14-31 (0.311)
8) WSU 13-32 (0.289)
9) INST 9-36 (0.200)
10) EVAN 6-39 (0.133)

You can tell the direct correlation between road wins and conference success (Drake is only as high as it is based on the 2007-08 season when they went 7-2 on the road in conference).

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... l=en#gid=0 - Link to the spreadsheet I created. Correct me on the records if I'm wrong...I had to do a lot of manual look up outside of the 2009-10 season.

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 4th, 2010, 11:30 am
by valleychamp
Snapshot9 wrote:Valleychamp - you are quite a bit wrong on the 4 road games lost the last 2 seasons. Here's the stats from the 08-09 season alone with 7 road losses to MVC opponents.

http://www.unipanthers.com/sports/w-baskbl/stats/2008-2009/teamstat.html


:lol:

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 4th, 2010, 12:12 pm
by Snapshot9
Oops! ... lol never looked up on the website, my fault. :oops:

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 6th, 2010, 7:24 pm
by xsaluki
Curious as to why the range of 2005-2006 to 2010 is being used?

Forget it, that is a rhetorical question.

Re: MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

PostPosted: October 6th, 2010, 8:46 pm
by snoopj
xsaluki wrote:Curious as to why the range of 2005-2006 to 2010 is being used?

Forget it, that is a rhetorical question.


No idea, but that's what I went with in the stats.