Does YOUR team control their Arch Madness seed?

by **pafan** » February 22nd, 2012, 10:07 pm

Based on Hacksaw's chart on the MVC Report:

MSU
If MSU wins at Evansville, their best seed is 3 and their worst seed is 3.
If MSU loses at Evansville, their best seed is 3 and their worst seed is 8.

Drake
If Drake wins in Wichita, their best seed is 3 and their worst seed is 4.
If Drake loses in Wichita, their best seed is 4 and their worst seed is 8.

Illinois St
If Illinois St wins at Bradley, their best seed is 3 and their worst seed is 7.
If Illinois St loses at Bradley, their best seed is 7 and their worst seed is 8.

Evansville
If Evansville wins vs. MSU, their best seed is 3 and their worst seed is 6.
If Evansville loses vs. MSU, their best seed is 6 and their worst seed is 8.

Northern Iowa
If Northern Iowa wins at SIU, their best seed is 4 and their worst seed is 7
If Northern Iowa loses at SIU, their best seed is 6 and their worst seed is 8.

Indiana State
If Indiana State wins vs. Creighton, their best seed is 3 and their worst seed is 6
If Indiana State loses vs. Creighton, their best seed is 5 and their worst seed is 8.

Summary
Only MSU has full control of their seed with a win. But everyone except UNI and Illinois State will guarantee a top 6 seed with a win.

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by **iSASO** » February 22nd, 2012, 10:20 pm

by **shockerengr** » February 22nd, 2012, 10:46 pm

Summary
Only MSU has full control of their seed with a win. But everyone except UNI and Illinois State will guarantee a top 6 seed with a win.

Everyone being liberally applied...as it really only applies to only 4 out of 10

by **Kyle** » February 22nd, 2012, 10:51 pm

There is only one scenario out of 16 in which a UNI win equals a Thursday game.

UE>MSU
Drake>WSU
ISU-R>BU
ISU-B>CU

IMO, the chances of this scenario playing out is less than 5%.

If UNI wins, they are a Friday team.

by **Khan4Cats** » February 23rd, 2012, 8:46 am

Kyle wrote:There is only one scenario out of 16 in which a UNI win equals a Thursday game.

UE>MSU
Drake>WSU
ISU-R>BU
ISU-B>CU

IMO, the chances of this scenario playing out is less than 5%.

If UNI wins, they are a Friday team.

Unless something truly bizarre happens, I just don't see Drake taking one in Wichita on Senior Day from Stutz, Murry, Kyles, Ragland and Smith.

Yes, I know Drake already beat them once. All the more reason to expect WSU to hold nothing back on them.

I'm far more concerned with UNI being able to win in Carbondale. We lost there last year with O'Rear.

by **MoBraves** » February 23rd, 2012, 10:40 am

Bradley has been in complete control of their seed all season!
Securing the same seed for 2 straight seasons - here's to more consistency in years to come!!! :dance:

by **2livewu** » February 23rd, 2012, 11:54 am

It's crazy that Indiana State could win and finish 6th but could lose and finish 5th.

Likewise, UNI could win and finish 7th but lose and finish 6th.

Missouri State could be in the position that it doesn't matter what they do....win and finish 3 or lose and finish 3....yet still have scenarios where they could lose and finish 8.

CRAZY with only 1 game to go.

by **WuShockNation** » February 23rd, 2012, 12:31 pm

this is making my head hurt

by **TheShock** » February 23rd, 2012, 12:43 pm

WuShockNation wrote:this is making my head hurt

Likewise... what would you expect from "America's Renaissance Conference"? :Beer:

by **45otseoj** » February 23rd, 2012, 3:12 pm

Big thanks to Hacksaw. This is his data simply trimmed (cutting away guarantees) and tweaked (putting the games in chronological order).