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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby Lakesbison » April 17th, 2017, 3:38 pm

valpo guy (NW Times) on ndsu radio now bison1660 radio app.

says based off RPI MVC should take Valpo Belmont & NDSU.

Also says that MVFC will put pressure on MVC presidents for NDSU inclusion.
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Postby UEACES80 » April 17th, 2017, 3:44 pm

Dang this thread was quiet for 3+ days
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby Lakesbison » April 17th, 2017, 4:01 pm

sorry.

valpo guy says valpo has twice as many alums in milwaukee alone (horizon) than all MVC cities combined. so finds it hard for them to move.
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Postby Drakey » April 17th, 2017, 5:14 pm

So add Milwaukee and Valpo.
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby acepurple84 » April 17th, 2017, 5:24 pm

Now hear this. It is a wild suggestion, but think about it then you can says Nuts. Make the NCAA a 256 game play in. The first two games would be played the week before the dates that are now set. That would mean some conferences would have to play earlier. Now after these game they would be down to the normal 64 teams. Then they play the normal schedule. From the losers of the first two game the NCAA/NIT would selection 32 teams from the initial losers (based on rate, SOS, ect) to paly in what is now the NIT. that way some of the teams the lost initially would play on. The NCAA tourney should have the better 64 teams continue on and the Mid Majors and smaller conferences could have more teams and revenue coming in. I know it sounds weird but maybe others would be able to paly more.
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby MOST » April 17th, 2017, 8:58 pm

OK. But with 352 D1 teams what is the selection process to ID' the 256 teams for the play in round?--or am I missing something? Plus, how are 256 teams seeded?
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby Lakesbison » April 17th, 2017, 9:49 pm

nope don't mess with it. it actually means something now.
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby JBoss8393 » April 18th, 2017, 10:34 am

acepurple84 wrote:Now hear this. It is a wild suggestion, but think about it then you can says Nuts. Make the NCAA a 256 game play in. The first two games would be played the week before the dates that are now set. That would mean some conferences would have to play earlier. Now after these game they would be down to the normal 64 teams. Then they play the normal schedule. From the losers of the first two game the NCAA/NIT would selection 32 teams from the initial losers (based on rate, SOS, ect) to paly in what is now the NIT. that way some of the teams the lost initially would play on. The NCAA tourney should have the better 64 teams continue on and the Mid Majors and smaller conferences could have more teams and revenue coming in. I know it sounds weird but maybe others would be able to paly more.


I think you're heading in the right direction. Why not just make every conference tournament and play in tournament. Then only the 32 conference champions move on to the dance. No "selection" committee, just a seeding committee based strictly on the metrics. For one thing it would kill conference realignment. Teams like Wichita State would have stayed in the Valley knowing they have a great shot of winning the conference year in and year out. You might some initial movement of either new conferences or power 6 teams move to other conferences to give them a better chance of winning and making the tournament.

Or you could keep the tourney at 64 but all regular season and tournament champs automatically qualify.
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby Lakesbison » April 18th, 2017, 10:13 pm

id rather see 2-3 teams from mid majors in the tourney over team #8 from Big Ten or ACC.
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby UEACES80 » April 19th, 2017, 7:38 am

Lakesbison wrote:id rather see 2-3 teams from mid majors in the tourney over team #8 from Big Ten or ACC.


I think that statement is even true for some P5 fans (as unless it is your conference or school most prefer the supposed Cinderella story) - the NCAA could put a Cap of say 5 teams (though I would prefer 4 - 1 to each region) from any respective conference. Still would weight the tourney to the P5 but the mid's would potentially get a few more teams into the tourney.
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby UNIFanSince1983 » April 19th, 2017, 2:54 pm

Lakesbison wrote:id rather see 2-3 teams from mid majors in the tourney over team #8 from Big Ten or ACC.


Anyone who is a fan of said "mid-major" teams will say this. However, the fact of the matter is we are in the minority. While people are said to love to see an Cinderella story they in fact do not. They may want to see a couple of crazy upsets and S16 teams, but in the end they want the best teams in the Championship. The ratings actually bear this out. Butler being the in the Championship two years in a row was terrible for the ratings. So in the end it is less likely the "mid-major" schools get the benefit of the doubt. Ratings are king and P5 teams provide those especially in the later rounds of the tournament.
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Re: NDSU/SDSU to MVC asap.

Postby Lakesbison » April 19th, 2017, 3:31 pm

I wanna post this here (as well as the other page) to help my main selling points of NDSU/SDSU


RPi's without (WSU,Creighton)

Past five years(average RPI)
NDSU: 86.8(33 best RPI, 125 worst)
SDSU: 95.4(28, 155)

UNI: 88(14, 162)
ISU: 92.4(33, 136)
Evansville: 144.6(93, 216)
ISUB: 148(72, 233)
SIU: 193.2(138, 276)
MSU: 196.4(87, 248)
Loyolla: 211.6(123, 292)
Drake: 245.6(144, 326)
Bradley: 254.8(191, 306)
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