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Re: Northeastern at So. Illinois - 9am

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 11:52 am
by TylerDurden
In Lowery's defense, he could be heard saying that they told the players that they didn't have any timeouts.

Not sure that helps, but it was clearly heard on ESPN3.

Re: Games in the Valley - 11/16/2010

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 11:53 am
by bigdawg
Where was the crew from? Sounds like Valley refs.

Re: Northeastern at So. Illinois - 9am

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 12:09 pm
by DoubleJayAlum
I can't help but wonder if a fan yelled it and the refs thought it was a player....

Re: Northeastern at So. Illinois - 9am

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 12:23 pm
by bigdawg
DoubleJayAlum wrote:I can't help but wonder if a fan yelled it and the refs thought it was a player....


If a ref's rabbit ears cost a game, that is beyond BS.

Re: Games in the Valley - 11/16/2010

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 12:38 pm
by Aargh
That would seem to be a correctable call.

Rule it an inadvertent whistle and award SIU the ball. That would be really easy under the circumstances. The official must have been pretty convinced that a TO was called. Either that or he was tired after possibly officiating a game last night and another this morning and just wanted the game to be over.

Re: Northeastern at So. Illinois - 9am

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 12:55 pm
by DUBulldog
MVCfans wrote:Figured I would start a thread for the game as it tips in 2 hrs. On ESPN. Hopefully the Salukis play well and the MVC comes out with a win

Dawgs 61-60.


Good call....wasn't it 60-60 at the end of regulation?

Re: Games in the Valley - 11/16/2010

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 1:06 pm
by unipanther99
Aargh wrote:That would seem to be a correctable call.

Rule it an inadvertent whistle and award SIU the ball. That would be really easy under the circumstances. The official must have been pretty convinced that a TO was called. Either that or he was tired after possibly officiating a game last night and another this morning and just wanted the game to be over.


Agreed, I don't know the specific rule in college, but in high school the time-out must be credited to someone, either the head coach or a specific player, and recorded as such in the score book.

Re: Games in the Valley - 11/16/2010

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 1:08 pm
by TylerDurden
Aargh wrote:That would seem to be a correctable call.

Rule it an inadvertent whistle and award SIU the ball. That would be really easy under the circumstances. The official must have been pretty convinced that a TO was called. Either that or he was tired after possibly officiating a game last night and another this morning and just wanted the game to be over.


I don't disagree.

They would look pretty bad if they said it was inadvertent after they signaled the timeout like they did, which may have had an impact.

I agree with you that they were pretty convinced that a TO was called...but the replay didn't confirm it, from what I saw/heard.

Either way, SIU only scored two points in OT and looked like they had never seen a zone. Both of those things were big factors in this game.

Re: Games in the Valley - 11/16/2010

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 1:16 pm
by SubGod22
In situations like that I either look at the coach to see if he wants one or I'm standing right in front of him so I know. I never grant one without knowing who it comes from. Especially late in a game. As far as reporting who called it, that may technically be the rule in HS but it's rarely reported/recorded around here. But I have had coaches ask me who called it when they didn't want one and made sure I had the number in my head.

Re: Games in the Valley - 11/16/2010

PostPosted: November 16th, 2010, 1:33 pm
by unipanther99
SubGod22 wrote:In situations like that I either look at the coach to see if he wants one or I'm standing right in front of him so I know. I never grant one without knowing who it comes from. Especially late in a game. As far as reporting who called it, that may technically be the rule in HS but it's rarely reported/recorded around here. But I have had coaches ask me who called it when they didn't want one and made sure I had the number in my head.


In Iowa, they do emphasize recording the time-out caller in high school. 90% of the time it's the coach anyway. But yeah, it's always a good idea as an official to make sure you see the time out called, not just hear it.