mvfcfan wrote:The attitude of football on this board really irritates me though and thank goodness the public football playing universities in the MVC don't feel the same way. The Missouri Valley the past few years in football is probably the best it has ever been in history and no one on here even seems to even care. Everyone just dogs it on here because it is not FBS.
Like in the 2014 season, out of every single MVFC school, the conference only lost 2 games to other FCS opponents and one of those losses was in the playoffs (INST to Chattanooga in the second round). Then we had the MVFC / National Championship game on ESPN2 which is a pretty big deal. I'm just not too sure how you can hate football so much whenever our member schools are having a lot of success in it. I'm also not sure why people don't want NDSU and SDSU as full MVC members. Yes they are football schools, but they also have pretty good basketball. Just because you have football or don't have football doesn't mean anything. There are lots of schools out there that don't have football and are terrible at basketball.
The last 7 years, or so, the MVFC - while supplying 22 less scholarships - has ranked with/a head of the MAC, CUSA, MWC and SBC
Looking at current computer models we have 5 MVFC (of the 10 teams total) in the top 100 of ALL of college football. That goes to 7 of the top 110.
There are 129 FBS teams and 255 total D1 teams.
There are 7 MVFC teams in the top 110
By comp here are the number of CUSA, MAC, SBC and MWC in the top 110
CUSA: 6
MAC: 5
SBC: 4
MWC: 4
Current Massey ratings has the MVFC tied with the MAC and MWC. A head of CUSA, SBC. Tied with the G5 as a whole in that ranking, actually.
Here's another computer ranking that I really like - ranks D1-NAIA. MVFC is 9th
1 Big 10 Conference ( 29- 8) 149.62 0.541 1.00
2 Southeastern Confere ( 26- 6) 149.55 0.538 1.00
3 Big 12 Conference ( 19- 10) 149.30 0.454 1.00
4 Pacific 12 Conferenc ( 26- 7) 148.05 0.606 1.00
5 Atlantic Coast Confe ( 22- 9) 147.96 0.567 1.00
6 American Athletic Co ( 18- 10) 138.54 0.591 1.00
7 Division I FBS Indep ( 5- 9) 135.23 0.374 1.00
8 Mountain West Confer ( 15- 19) 135.07 0.604 1.00
9 Missouri Valley Foot ( 18- 8) 130.61 0.482 1.50
10 Mid-American Confere ( 18- 17) 129.36 0.604 1.00
11 Conference USA ( 16- 20) 125.66 0.615 1.00
12 Colonial Athletic As ( 21- 10) 122.14 0.711 1.50
13 Sun Belt Conference ( 9- 18) 121.84 0.566 1.00
The FCS, in many ways, is what it is made out to be here. However, the reality is that the G5 could easily be seen as a much bigger money waste than the FCS. They offer 22 more scholarships - meaning 44 more scholarships. They pay their coaches 3-6 times what the FCS does - with larger coaching staffs. They play in 60% empty stadiums that cost millions per year to upkeep. It is well known how much money bowl games end up losing programs.
Each fan base/school has their own feeling on football. Schools that currently have football will not see the benefits those without football assume they will by dropping the program.