What's the next realignment domino to fall?

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What happens next?

Wichita St leaves for a better league
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37%
Missouri St, IllinoisSt, UNI move up to FBS
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25%
MVC expands
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37%
 
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby AndShock » October 5th, 2017, 10:26 pm

It's hard to quantify the exact value of football. I went to high school with a lot of people that went to K-State mostly because of football and the college atmosphere and experience that comes with it. I don't know how much that factors into prospective college students at the FCS level, but it probably has some effect.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby uniftw » October 5th, 2017, 11:24 pm

AndShock wrote:It's hard to quantify the exact value of football. I went to high school with a lot of people that went to K-State mostly because of football and the college atmosphere and experience that comes with it. I don't know how much that factors into prospective college students at the FCS level, but it probably has some effect.

It does.

It's been referenced before, but UNI did a study in 09/10 and it found that if football was cut enrollment would take a dramatic drop - to the point that, IIRC, they said it would basically cripple the univerty's ability to operate at a level other than D3 or NAIA.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby rally » October 6th, 2017, 3:09 pm

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:Don't know where to put this so here it is. Value of top college football team is Ohio state at 1.5-BILLION. Top in basket is (was) Louisville at 45-million


That's comparing different valuations from Forbes and WSJ. The WSJ which values OSU Football at $1.5 billion has the most valuable being Kentucky basketball at $342.6 million.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » October 6th, 2017, 4:13 pm

rally wrote:
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:Don't know where to put this so here it is. Value of top college football team is Ohio state at 1.5-BILLION. Top in basket is (was) Louisville at 45-million


That's comparing different valuations from Forbes and WSJ. The WSJ which values OSU Football at $1.5 billion has the most valuable being Kentucky basketball at $342.6 million.


That's makes a little more sense.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby Ali » October 28th, 2017, 1:20 pm

Has it ever been reported what portion of the AAC television deal is granted to WSU? I assume most of the limited TV contract is for football which they won't see a penny of.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby VUGrad1314 » October 28th, 2017, 3:38 pm

Methinks the move was made predominantly for the purposes of tournament revenue and seeding. Wichita State will find the move financially rewarding I'm sure, though perhaps not as much as they had hoped. I remember the reported entrance costs associated with the Shockers move to the AAC were staggering
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » October 28th, 2017, 6:26 pm

I'm sure Charles Koch had no problem paying the entrance cost. He probably found the money in his couch cushions.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby AndShock » October 28th, 2017, 7:49 pm

Ali wrote:Has it ever been reported what portion of the AAC television deal is granted to WSU? I assume most of the limited TV contract is for football which they won't see a penny of.

The current deal ends in 2020, we aren't getting anything until then. The slice will be considerably smaller than the other AAC schools, but we are expecting to get a slice.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby ShoxNAwe » November 4th, 2017, 11:25 am

Does the AAC have to pay to get games on TV?
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby mvfcfan » November 10th, 2017, 8:17 am

AndShock wrote:
Ali wrote:Has it ever been reported what portion of the AAC television deal is granted to WSU? I assume most of the limited TV contract is for football which they won't see a penny of.

The current deal ends in 2020, we aren't getting anything until then. The slice will be considerably smaller than the other AAC schools, but we are expecting to get a slice.


Haha I hope all the relevant AAC schools are gone by 2020. Would make my day to see Wichita stuck in some terrible league having to play teams in NC and FL and barely get any money from TV.
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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby shocktheheart » November 10th, 2017, 1:34 pm

mvfcfan wrote:
AndShock wrote:
Ali wrote:Has it ever been reported what portion of the AAC television deal is granted to WSU? I assume most of the limited TV contract is for football which they won't see a penny of.

The current deal ends in 2020, we aren't getting anything until then. The slice will be considerably smaller than the other AAC schools, but we are expecting to get a slice.


Haha I hope all the relevant AAC schools are gone by 2020. Would make my day to see Wichita stuck in some terrible league having to play teams in NC and FL and barely get any money from TV.


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Re: What's the next realignment domino to fall?

Postby AndShock » November 10th, 2017, 5:00 pm

mvfcfan wrote:
AndShock wrote:
Ali wrote:Has it ever been reported what portion of the AAC television deal is granted to WSU? I assume most of the limited TV contract is for football which they won't see a penny of.

The current deal ends in 2020, we aren't getting anything until then. The slice will be considerably smaller than the other AAC schools, but we are expecting to get a slice.


Haha I hope all the relevant AAC schools are gone by 2020. Would make my day to see Wichita stuck in some terrible league having to play teams in NC and FL and barely get any money from TV.

This has been discussed but there’s basically no scenario you can come up with that results in “all” of the relevant schools being gone. Even if some disaster scenario happened, we’ll be better prepared to take on the future and head down a path that our President and administration has a vision of achieving some day.

If the AAC fails then we tried and failed and ended up in a terrible league with schools in NC and FL. If we never joined the AAC then we never tried and still failed and ended up in a terrible league with schools in IL and IN.

If Evansville were playing schools in Florida instead of Indiana, what would the current difference be?
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