uniftw wrote:Let's make this relevant the MVC as it stands today
Only one team in the MVC has any NCAA wins in the last 9 seasons - it has football
Of the S16s that belong to the MVC over the last 15 years to teams currently in the MVC 2 of the 3 belong to football schools.
100% of the conference titles (regular season and conference tournament) over the last 10 years that remain in the conference belong to schools with football
The last time a true non-football did anything was 2006/2007.
Maybe Bradley and Evansville can take some of that $3 million they are spending on basketball and actually win a couple f__king games, or titles.
Sure, if you ignore non-football CREIGHTON AND WICHITA STATE WHO WERE SO SUCCESSFUL THEY MOVED UP.
Sorry, I don't use all caps often, but this is such a Grand Canyon-sized hole in your argument I'm left with no choice. You can't just ignore that part of the last decade-plus when you're talking about how football affects Valley schools. If anything, IF those schools had football, it would have HELD THEM BACK from actually moving up the conference chain (again, sorry).
I can find the numbers I posted, but the last time a non-football/private school still in the valley finished in the top half of the all sports trophy standings was over a decade ago. The 4 private schools (excluding Valpo who just joined) finished outside of the bottom 4 was so long ago I couldn't pull numbers to calculate it anymore. The MVC didn't have standings that far back.
Public schools naturally have an advantage in partial-scholarship, Olympic sports because a $5k scholarship goes further at them. So if you're looking to build a powerhouse womens rowing conference, sure, kick out the privates. But that would be stupid because basketball pays the bills, and without the revenue sports you don't pay the bills with the non-revenues.
Maybe non-football/private schools should actually do something to "put us in our place".
See above.
Also funny to see an ISUr fan bashing FCS football - a sport which they spend more than anyone in except maybe Illinois State of the MVC schools.
I don't even.