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bigdawg wrote:I interpreted his comments to mean that Wichita State thinks they are something they are not. That is, Wichita State thinks they are bigger than the valley and that any league would be happy to have them when in fact no one has expressed interest in them (that we are aware). Isn't that sort of an unofficial definition of "too big for their britches"?

He is saying WSU is:

1. Conceited
2. exaggerated self-importance
3. Over confident
4. Power struck
5. Awesome and we would like to be like them but never will

ACECARD wrote:

LanceShock wrote:
That being said, I imagine there are a lot of posters on here who will agree with the SIU AD.

Yes, there is that possibility.

It's good to see someone from the other little 7 schools step up and take their turn being lambasted by the gods from the land of wheat.

mule wrote:

ACECARD wrote:

LanceShock wrote:
That being said, I imagine there are a lot of posters on here who will agree with the SIU AD.

Yes, there is that possibility.

It's good to see someone from the other little 7 schools step up and take their turn being lambasted by the gods from the land of wheat.

Get over yourself mule.

All-MVC Fan wrote:I hope the athletic departments and fan bases that feel the same way as this tool from SIU enjoy the return of the Valley to late 80's/early 90's relevance that we saw back then. When Creighton left, it was obvious that WSU was going to step up and take their place and continue to set the bar for the MVC. If they leave, the conference doesn't have any other school similarly committed to excellence.

I hope you all enjoy irrelevance...

"take their place"???? What the hell did Creighton EVER do for the MVC?
National Championship in any sport? Nope
Sweet Sixteen? Nope
Elite Eight? Nope
Final Four(s)? Nope
I'm not even sure if they even made the round of 32

Never has a school lucked out in winning at St Louis as much as the BJs and then do nothing with it in the tournament.

Veritas wrote:

All-MVC Fan wrote:I hope the athletic departments and fan bases that feel the same way as this tool from SIU enjoy the return of the Valley to late 80's/early 90's relevance that we saw back then. When Creighton left, it was obvious that WSU was going to step up and take their place and continue to set the bar for the MVC. If they leave, the conference doesn't have any other school similarly committed to excellence.

I hope you all enjoy irrelevance...

"take their place"???? What the hell did Creighton EVER do for the MVC?
National Championship in any sport? Nope
Sweet Sixteen? Nope
Elite Eight? Nope
Final Four(s)? Nope
I'm not even sure if they even made the round of 32

Never has a school lucked out in winning at St Louis as much as the BJs and then do nothing with it in the tournament.

What they did do was raise the collective RPI of the conference and provide an extra NCAA team from the Valley each year.

Wufan wrote:

Veritas wrote:

All-MVC Fan wrote:I hope the athletic departments and fan bases that feel the same way as this tool from SIU enjoy the return of the Valley to late 80's/early 90's relevance that we saw back then. When Creighton left, it was obvious that WSU was going to step up and take their place and continue to set the bar for the MVC. If they leave, the conference doesn't have any other school similarly committed to excellence.

I hope you all enjoy irrelevance...

"take their place"???? What the hell did Creighton EVER do for the MVC?
National Championship in any sport? Nope
Sweet Sixteen? Nope
Elite Eight? Nope
Final Four(s)? Nope
I'm not even sure if they even made the round of 32

Never has a school lucked out in winning at St Louis as much as the BJs and then do nothing with it in the tournament.

What they did do was raise the collective RPI of the conference and provide an extra NCAA team from the Valley each year.

So you believe WSU "took their place?" CU was a mediocre program that did little to help the MoVal except disappoint; both the conference and their fans.

Veritas wrote:So you believe WSU "took their place?"

No.

Loyola took CU's place in the MVC.

No MVC team could match WSU's post season success (Sweet 16 in 2006 and Final 4 in 2013) during the last 17 years of CU's membership (1996-97 through 2012-13) when MVC membership was the same. SIU did have two Sweet 16 appearances during that time frame.

No MVC team came close to CU's overall conference success during that same 17 year period (WSU figures in parenthesis for comparison):
Regular Season MVC Win Percentage .673 (.546)
Regular Season Championships 4 (2)
MVC Tournament Championships 8 (0)
NCAA Tournament Appearances 9 (3)
20-win seasons 14 (7)
10-win MVC conference seasons 17 (9)

Mike wrote:Loyola took CU's place in the MVC.

No MVC team could match WSU's post season success (Sweet 16 in 2006 and Final 4 in 2013) during the last 17 years of CU's membership (1996-97 through 2012-13) when MVC membership was the same. SIU did have two Sweet 16 appearances during that time frame.

No MVC team came close to CU's overall conference success during that same 17 year period (WSU figures in parenthesis for comparison):
Regular Season MVC Win Percentage .673 (.546)
Regular Season Championships 4 (2)
MVC Tournament Championships 8 (0)
NCAA Tournament Appearances 9 (3)
20-win seasons 14 (7)
10-win MVC conference seasons 17 (9)

WSU was horrible until about 2003. SIU was really good for the first part of that stretch, and WSU + UNI during the last 10 or so years.

Mike wrote:Loyola took CU's place in the MVC.

No MVC team could match WSU's post season success (Sweet 16 in 2006 and Final 4 in 2013) during the last 17 years of CU's membership (1996-97 through 2012-13) when MVC membership was the same. SIU did have two Sweet 16 appearances during that time frame.

No MVC team came close to CU's overall conference success during that same 17 year period (WSU figures in parenthesis for comparison):
Regular Season MVC Win Percentage .673 (.546)
Regular Season Championships 4 (2)
MVC Tournament Championships 8 (0)
NCAA Tournament Appearances 9 (3)
20-win seasons 14 (7)
10-win MVC conference seasons 17 (9)

Good stuff Mike - rare to see WSU fans scramble.