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Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2016, 9:55 am
by Wufan
Redhawk wrote:
Wufan wrote:As we finish the Conference season, here's my top 9 in no particular order:

Jeremy Morgan
Paris Lee
Jaylon Brown
Brenton Scott
Audre Jackson
Milton Doyle
Mikyle McIntosh
Alize Johnson
Darral Willis



Good list Wufan but I would replace Hawkins for McIntosh.


Yeah, Hawkins has slightly better points and rebounds, but otherwise they are identical. I thought about putting them both on th list, but only if the birds win the conference. As that is as of yet unknown, I'm delivering the punishment that Muller will not. I'm sure he's learned his lesson now. ;)

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2016, 9:57 am
by Wufan
specialsauce wrote:Man that conference season flew by so fast, it almost seemed like it never happened.


My fail...non-conference.

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2016, 10:03 am
by Redhawk
Wufan wrote:
Redhawk wrote:
Wufan wrote:As we finish the Conference season, here's my top 9 in no particular order:

Jeremy Morgan
Paris Lee
Jaylon Brown
Brenton Scott
Audre Jackson
Milton Doyle
Mikyle McIntosh
Alize Johnson
Darral Willis



Good list Wufan but I would replace Hawkins for McIntosh.


Yeah, Hawkins has slightly better points and rebounds, but otherwise they are identical. I thought about putting them both on th list, but only if the birds win the conference. As that is as of yet unknown, I'm delivering the punishment that Muller will not. I'm sure he's learned his lesson now. ;)


I am okay with that! POY is in some regards a popularity contest and in that case I would also take MiKyle over Deontae.

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2016, 10:54 am
by AceMatt
Jaylon Brown is averaging 21.5 ppg but the Aces will have to finish near the top 3 for him to have any realistic shot

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: January 8th, 2017, 2:29 am
by Brot4britu
AND HERE COMES MILTON !!!

He pumped in 35 played great DEFENSE --grabbed 10 boards !! On the road against an improving Bradley.

He MIGHT--I say might go off again next in Wichita.

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: January 9th, 2017, 4:51 pm
by specialsauce
Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: January 9th, 2017, 5:11 pm
by BirdsEyeView
specialsauce wrote:Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?


You wouldn't think so...

WSU - Willis or McDuffie
ISUr - Lee or McIntosh (maybe Hawkins)


Morgan, Doyle, Scott, Brown and Johnson would get consideration depending on how their teams perform

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: January 9th, 2017, 5:17 pm
by Stickboy46
BirdsEyeView wrote:
specialsauce wrote:Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?


You wouldn't think so...

WSU - Willis or McDuffie
ISUr - Lee or McIntosh (maybe Hawkins)


Morgan, Doyle, Scott, Brown and Johnson would get consideration depending on how their teams perform

If Shamet continues his current conference performance trajectory he's going to be in the discussion. He currently has the highest ORtg per KenPom of any valley player that plays at least 40% of minutes.

I would be very surprised if they award it to a Freshman unless he just starts putting up stupid numbers.

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: January 9th, 2017, 6:39 pm
by Wufan
Not necessarily advocating these guys, but here's the conference numbers:

Shamet - 14, 2, 5...9:1 A:TO ratio, 2 steals per game, 56% from the field, 44% from 3, 3 for 3 from the stripe.
Willis - 14, 6, 1...2 blocks per game, 50%/0%/83%
McDuffie - 13, 6, 2...57%/50%/94%

They were not this good in the non-con.

ISUr big three MVC numbers:

McIntosh - 19, 7, 3...49%/50%/74%
Hawkins - 14, 6, 2...46%/56%/89%
Lee - 10, 7, 5...35%/38%/67%, 2:1 A:TO, 2 steals per game

Re: MVC POY

PostPosted: January 9th, 2017, 6:42 pm
by glm38
specialsauce wrote:Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?


I don't think so either. McDuffie, Shamet, and Paris Lee would be my early favorites.