MVC POY

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Which player not on your team will win POY?

Sean O'Brien
2
3%
Reed Timmer
1
2%
McKyle McIntosh
6
10%
Paris Lee
6
10%
Brenton Scott
3
5%
Milton Doyle
8
14%
Dequan Miller
0
No votes
Markis McDuffie
9
15%
Shaq Morris
3
5%
Jeremy Morgan
21
36%
 
Total votes : 59

Re: MVC POY

Postby Brot4britu » January 8th, 2017, 2:29 am

AND HERE COMES MILTON !!!

He pumped in 35 played great DEFENSE --grabbed 10 boards !! On the road against an improving Bradley.

He MIGHT--I say might go off again next in Wichita.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby specialsauce » January 9th, 2017, 4:51 pm

Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?
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Re: MVC POY

Postby BirdsEyeView » January 9th, 2017, 5:11 pm

specialsauce wrote:Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?


You wouldn't think so...

WSU - Willis or McDuffie
ISUr - Lee or McIntosh (maybe Hawkins)


Morgan, Doyle, Scott, Brown and Johnson would get consideration depending on how their teams perform
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Re: MVC POY

Postby Stickboy46 » January 9th, 2017, 5:17 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:
specialsauce wrote:Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?


You wouldn't think so...

WSU - Willis or McDuffie
ISUr - Lee or McIntosh (maybe Hawkins)


Morgan, Doyle, Scott, Brown and Johnson would get consideration depending on how their teams perform

If Shamet continues his current conference performance trajectory he's going to be in the discussion. He currently has the highest ORtg per KenPom of any valley player that plays at least 40% of minutes.

I would be very surprised if they award it to a Freshman unless he just starts putting up stupid numbers.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby Wufan » January 9th, 2017, 6:39 pm

Not necessarily advocating these guys, but here's the conference numbers:

Shamet - 14, 2, 5...9:1 A:TO ratio, 2 steals per game, 56% from the field, 44% from 3, 3 for 3 from the stripe.
Willis - 14, 6, 1...2 blocks per game, 50%/0%/83%
McDuffie - 13, 6, 2...57%/50%/94%

They were not this good in the non-con.

ISUr big three MVC numbers:

McIntosh - 19, 7, 3...49%/50%/74%
Hawkins - 14, 6, 2...46%/56%/89%
Lee - 10, 7, 5...35%/38%/67%, 2:1 A:TO, 2 steals per game
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Re: MVC POY

Postby glm38 » January 9th, 2017, 6:42 pm

specialsauce wrote:Ok, so who starts to emerge among the POY voters if UNI continues a trend towards Thursday. Surely a POY can't come from a play-in team, can they?


I don't think so either. McDuffie, Shamet, and Paris Lee would be my early favorites.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby Cdizzle » January 10th, 2017, 9:25 am

WSU players won't put up the stats for POY. They've struggled to put up good lines against good competition, and they only get to play 19 minutes against crappy competition.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby Blers » January 10th, 2017, 11:03 am

I'd have to say Paris Lee or Mikyle Mcintosh at this point. Given WSU depth and ISU's relative lack of it they both have more impact on their teams. I'd be curious to hear a Redbirds fans thoughts on the two. To me I think Paris Lee would be a bigger loss for them at this point in the season.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby Cdizzle » January 10th, 2017, 11:38 am

Blers wrote:I'd have to say Paris Lee or Mikyle Mcintosh at this point. Given WSU depth and ISU's relative lack of it they both have more impact on their teams. I'd be curious to hear a Redbirds fans thoughts on the two. To me I think Paris Lee would be a bigger loss for them at this point in the season.

Yeah. My head and eyes say McIntosh. The advanced metrics surprise me a bit and say Lee. I think Lee is a really good PG, but McIntosh is the matchup problem that people can't handle.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby Rollbird5 » January 10th, 2017, 12:04 pm

Cdizzle wrote:
Blers wrote:I'd have to say Paris Lee or Mikyle Mcintosh at this point. Given WSU depth and ISU's relative lack of it they both have more impact on their teams. I'd be curious to hear a Redbirds fans thoughts on the two. To me I think Paris Lee would be a bigger loss for them at this point in the season.

Yeah. My head and eyes say McIntosh. The advanced metrics surprise me a bit and say Lee. I think Lee is a really good PG, but McIntosh is the matchup problem that people can't handle.

I would say that Lee is more important to our team but McIntosh is more talented.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby specialsauce » January 10th, 2017, 12:45 pm

Lee may not put up the gaudy numbers (although his 3 pt % is exceptional), he does a lot of little things that makes that team work. He would be my pick at this time.
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Re: MVC POY

Postby Redbirdgrad » January 10th, 2017, 12:49 pm

Whenever I analyze the Birds, Lee comes out on top in a lot of areas.

That said, everyone above me is exactly right. MM is more gifted, but Lee is more important and puts up the better lines.

MM has regressed a tad offensively as I think they've reigned him in from being a bull in a china shop and getting 2 offensive fouls per game due to that. It's a good move for him, because he's been great defensively for us.

The problem with any of the Birds for POY right now is that they have different people who step up every night. While that's a good thing in terms of W's... nobody actually stands out from the crowd.

Finally STARTING to have a problem Wichita has had for a while...
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