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Preseason Ranking National Analysis

Postby mule » November 10th, 2016, 11:08 am

Within the past two weeks both KenPom and SI ranked all 351 D1 basketball teams.
http://kenpom.com/index.php
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 ... s-kentucky
They agreed with the posters of this forum for the most part except for the ranking of UE. Both sites picked UE 4th based on their data. Who's right? The season starts tomorrow. Guess we will find out soon enough. Here's the numbers:
KenPom (SI)
WSU 34 (26)
UNI 82 (110)
ISUr 95 (119)
UE 144 (150)
MSU 158 (184)
SIU 164 (191)
ISUb 190 (156)
LU 215 (192)
Bradley 221 (309)
Drake 236 (203)
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Re: Preseason Ranking National Analysis

Postby BuBrave2006 » November 10th, 2016, 11:31 am

mule wrote:Within the past two weeks both KenPom and SI ranked all 351 D1 basketball teams.
http://kenpom.com/index.php
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 ... s-kentucky
They agreed with the posters of this forum for the most part except for the ranking of UE. Both sites picked UE 4th based on their data. Who's right? The season starts tomorrow. Guess we will find out soon enough. Here's the numbers:
KenPom (SI)
WSU 34 (26)
UNI 82 (110)
ISUr 95 (119)
UE 144 (150)
MSU 158 (184)
SIU 164 (191)
ISUb 190 (156)
LU 215 (192)
Bradley 221 (309)
Drake 236 (203)


SI sucks. No way Bradley is in the 300s this year. I mean, I know we struggled last year but c'mon, do some research.
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Re: Preseason Ranking National Analysis

Postby FeartheQ » November 10th, 2016, 12:00 pm

Sagarin has rankings out as well

Wichita St 22
Illinois St 65
Northern Iowa 67
Missouri State 120
Southern Ill. 123
Indiana St. 145
Loyola 175
Evansville 208
Bradley 236
Drake 300

Ranked 11th best conference
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Re: Preseason Ranking National Analysis

Postby Cdizzle » November 10th, 2016, 12:12 pm

FeartheQ wrote:Sagarin has rankings out as well

Wichita St 22
Illinois St 65
Northern Iowa 67
Missouri State 120
Southern Ill. 123
Indiana St. 145
Loyola 175
Evansville 208
Bradley 236
Drake 300

Ranked 11th best conference

Not sure what Sagarin's initial rankings are based on, but 22 is too high for WSU right now. Considerably.
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Re: Preseason Ranking National Analysis

Postby RoyalShock » November 11th, 2016, 11:30 am

I believe Sagarin uses a portion of last season to weight this season's numbers until all teams become "connected".
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Re: Preseason Ranking National Analysis

Postby Cdizzle » November 11th, 2016, 11:39 am

RoyalShock wrote:I believe Sagarin uses a portion of last season to weight this season's numbers until all teams become "connected".

Yeah, I believe you are right. I definitely think WSU has the potential to end up a Top 25 caliber team. But I think it's going to take some time.
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