November 26th - 27th MVC games

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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby BuBrave2006 » November 29th, 2016, 11:19 am

specialsauce wrote:
BuBrave2006 wrote:
specialsauce wrote:And thank you. :+1:


Oh please. Look at what happened when Butler made the championship game (either year, but especially against Duke). If Wichita were to win the National Championship, college basketball would collapse onto itself.


Wait. Did a person that predicted that Bradley was going to win the Valley next year just say "oh please"? That's rich.

And I'm not sure what your actual point is. Nobody outside of the Valley would care about the Valley if WSU or UNI won a title, just like no one cares about the Big East just because Nova won it. I'd care about Nova though.


Thought it was fairly obvious that my prediction was sarcastic, Although i do expect us to be significantly better next year, but I digress...

No one actually considers the Big East a "mid-major" though, if a team from an actual mid-major conference won the national title, I think it would be huge for that conferece. Also, if I recall, Butler left the Horizon shortly after making the title game, which also obviously hurt the conference pub.
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby Mike » November 29th, 2016, 11:30 am

MVC needs more years like 2006 when SIU, UNI, Bradley and WSU all made the NCAA and Bradley and WSU went to the Sweet 16. Has the MVC had more that 2 teams in the NCAA tournament in any year since then?
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby Khan4Cats » November 29th, 2016, 12:01 pm

Mike wrote:MVC needs more years like 2006 when SIU, UNI, Bradley and WSU all made the NCAA and Bradley and WSU went to the Sweet 16. Has the MVC had more that 2 teams in the NCAA tournament in any year since then?


Nope, just UNI and WSU the last two years, WSU and CU in 12 and 13, SIU and CU in 07. 5 one-bid years and 5 two-bid years in the last 10.
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby Wufan » November 29th, 2016, 6:28 pm

Mike wrote:MVC needs more years like 2006 when SIU, UNI, Bradley and WSU all made the NCAA and Bradley and WSU went to the Sweet 16. Has the MVC had more that 2 teams in the NCAA tournament in any year since then?


It's been 10 years! Need three teams in the dance SOON!
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby shockalot » November 29th, 2016, 9:42 pm

LanceShock wrote:WSU or UNI could win the national championship and still nobody outside the Valley would care about it.


Nonsense. The media profile of the Big East has gone up substantially with Nova winning the championship, and the same enhancement of any conferences profile is and would be increased with a conference team winning the national championship. Any given individual might not care about the conference the champ came from but many do, especially players, and more good players will be drawn to a conference that has a national champion. Just look at Gonzaga which hasn't even won a national championship, but with year after year of excellence and success has significantly raised the profile of the WCC to the point that that conference has more good players coming to it and other teams that are now at a higher level then before Gonzaga's sustained success.
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby specialsauce » November 29th, 2016, 10:07 pm

That Horizon was one mighty, powerful conference and gained lots of respect after Butler's back-to-back title appearances. :roll:

I want to know how the conference does against the P5. That's the measuring stick. That's it. Anything else is just white noise.
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby shockalot » November 30th, 2016, 7:31 pm

The indication that you are missing is National Championship, not title appearance. Though, it clearly IS the case that Butler's title appearances got it out of the Horizon league.
Of course the winning team gets tons of exposure, and so does the winning team's conference. Look, anyone paying attention can see that the national media has increased it's respect for the new Big East as a basketball conference after Villanova's Championship win, and other Big East teams are getting more benefit of the doubt about how good they are, and will likely reap rewards in higher level recruiting gets.
But hey, its fine if it doesn't ring your bell personally.
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby specialsauce » November 30th, 2016, 7:42 pm

You're the one that seems abnormally defensive about the comments. Are you from Nebraska by any chance?

Are you really splitting hairs between a national championship appearance and a national championship? A championship appearance, especially in BACK TO BACK years, is a pretty big deal too.

I haven't noticed anymore attention to the Big East than in years' past. The majority of their games are still on some obscure television network. Villanova has gotten lots of more attention than before. I expected and noticed that. The rest of the conference? Not so much.
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby shockalot » November 30th, 2016, 8:56 pm

You are special, and saucy! The reason for you're reaction to a poster including the BE as a top 6 conference is transparently about that conference having Creighton in it, and therefore must be a conference of no account, as made yet more obvious by you're need to see me merely voicing an opinion based on observation that is contrary to yours as being from Nebraska, i.e. a BJ fan in a shocker mask!
I have no love of Creighton, nor of the Big East. But unlike you I'm not butt hurt over the fact that Creighton got out of the MVC into a higher profile conference and WSU didn't. Get over it dude.
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Re: November 26th - 27th MVC games

Postby specialsauce » November 30th, 2016, 9:16 pm

Who said that the Valley was better than the Big East? Not I.

Again, you seem pretty adamant about defending the Big East on a Valley board. Just weird.

I'm just being honest. The Big East is not getting anymore attention than normal. Where is this extra "attention" you're seeing? They don't appear on any major sports carrier. I rarely notice any highlights, except of Villanova. Again, Villanova is the one that is constantly talked about and focussed in on. The Big East is not. No matter how many times the talking heads on their flagship network say they are. They're paid to do that. Maybe you should get over it.. dude.
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