Dec. 17-18 Games

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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 18th, 2016, 7:01 pm

Birds win 81-72 over St. Josephs

Paris Lee with 24 points and is now 5th in the nation in three point shooting percentage
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby AceMatt » December 18th, 2016, 7:07 pm

ShoxNAwe wrote:1. How many quality, statement wins are left on WSU's schedule?

2. How many consecutive wins would it take for WSU to get ranked again this season?

3. What other Valley team has a shot at being ranked anytime during the remainder of this season?


1. Probably just (2) against whichever team that could end up 13-5 or better in conference.

2. (9). Wichita would need to beat South Dakota St. and win their first 8 conference games in order to be ranked at 18-3

3. Loyola who already has a top 25 vote could be ranked if they beat Toledo and win their first 6 conference games to get to 17-2.

Also Illinois St. has joined the conversation for conference title. However they would need to get into the 10-0 type of conference start in order to be ranked. Which is very unlikely.
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby Rollbird5 » December 18th, 2016, 7:12 pm

AceMatt wrote:
ShoxNAwe wrote:1. How many quality, statement wins are left on WSU's schedule?

2. How many consecutive wins would it take for WSU to get ranked again this season?

3. What other Valley team has a shot at being ranked anytime during the remainder of this season?


1. Probably just (2) against whichever team that could end up 13-5 or better in conference.

2. (9). Wichita would need to beat South Dakota St. and win their first 8 conference games in order to be ranked at 19-3

3. Loyola who already has a top 25 vote could be ranked if they beat Toledo and win their first 6 conference games to get to 17-2.

Also Illinois St. has joined the conversation for conference title. However they would need to get into the 10-0 type of conference start in order to be ranked. Which is very unlikely.


We (ISU) have to prove we can win on the road still, but have a pretty solid team. Paris Lee has been great so far. Only problem is our depth at times
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 18th, 2016, 7:26 pm

Rollbird5 wrote:
AceMatt wrote:
Also Illinois St. has joined the conversation for conference title. However they would need to get into the 10-0 type of conference start in order to be ranked. Which is very unlikely.


We (ISU) have to prove we can win on the road still, but have a pretty solid team. Paris Lee has been great so far. Only problem is our depth at times


Coaching is a major problem. We should be unbeaten...given up 3 leads up 7+ with under 4 minutes to go and lose. That's on Muller.
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby Rollbird5 » December 18th, 2016, 7:42 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:
Rollbird5 wrote:
AceMatt wrote:
Also Illinois St. has joined the conversation for conference title. However they would need to get into the 10-0 type of conference start in order to be ranked. Which is very unlikely.


We (ISU) have to prove we can win on the road still, but have a pretty solid team. Paris Lee has been great so far. Only problem is our depth at times


Coaching is a major problem. We should be unbeaten...given up 3 leads up 7+ with under 4 minutes to go and lose. That's on Muller.


I put the blame some on the coach some on the players. Guys on the court make another stop or hit another shot and the outcomes turn out different.
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby ACECARD » December 18th, 2016, 7:46 pm

Redbirdgrad wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Nah, it was a troll job. That's why you put a time limit on it. It's expected from you with your passionate hate for the team you're constantly looking up to.

And yes. That's a good point. There isn't another team in the Valley within 100 spots of Oklahoma State so I expect those type of results not to happen again.

Good luck today with your band of 2500 at Redbird Arena.


Trolling has time limits? Learn something new every day!

The 48 hours is pretty common fare from teams who don't take losing well. Wichita included. You vent, you post out of frustration, and them you come back to being somewhat level-headed in a few days. It happens to all teams but since Wichita fans dominate the board, it was time to get the popcorn ready...

Look up to??? Hahahahahahahahaha. Whooo boy that's rich. I despise the Wichita program. You don't win with class and you're worse when you lose. Your posters are obnoxious even though the fan base is generally cool in person. Overall, I'd love to have the success but not if it comes in the manner in which your posters carry yourselves. Sucks when a bunch of bad apples ruin it because Wichita used to be my favorite school to root for outside of ISU. But you had some success and unfortunately it came with idiots that it attracted to the program.

Taking parting shots at attendance huh... how far have you sunk as a person... Or as a different person since you have to change screen names every so often when the going gets rough. Hang in there kiddo. We're all here for you.

Redbirdgrad, you are rapidly becoming my favorite poster to this forum. Your post was a pleasure to read.
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby cpacmel » December 18th, 2016, 8:06 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:Coaching is a major problem. We should be unbeaten...given up 3 leads up 7+ with under 4 minutes to go and lose. That's on Muller.


That's a pretty incredible stat.

Too bad it's not true. :Bam:
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby Aargh » December 18th, 2016, 8:16 pm

AceMatt wrote:The door is open for someone like Loyola to win the season title this year. Also Loyola has an important game at Toledo on Tuesday to keep their outside chance for an at large bid.

I don't doubt that Gregg Marshall will have his team rounded into championship form just saying the door is open.

Loyola?? At large?? Loyola would have to win every game between now and the finals in St. Louis to be a bubble team. Their best win is over a team with an rpi of 137. that doesn't get you an at-large. there aren't many opportunities for quality wins in the Valley

The Shox will be inconsistent. They've struggled when they get punched in the mouth early in a game. I don't see many teams in the Valley capable of doing that the way Louisville and OkSt did. Valley teams are more likely to see WSU's D and have half their players pee down their legs, resulting in something like the 30+ point blowouts the Shox have inflicted on teams at the level of much of the Valley.
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 18th, 2016, 9:25 pm

cpacmel wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:Coaching is a major problem. We should be unbeaten...given up 3 leads up 7+ with under 4 minutes to go and lose. That's on Muller.


That's a pretty incredible stat.

Too bad it's not true. :Bam:


You are correct. Forgot TCU came back earlier. Regardless, in-game coaching is not a strong suit for ISUr
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Re: Dec. 17-18 Games

Postby cpacmel » December 18th, 2016, 10:13 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:
cpacmel wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:Coaching is a major problem. We should be unbeaten...given up 3 leads up 7+ with under 4 minutes to go and lose. That's on Muller.


That's a pretty incredible stat.

Too bad it's not true. :Bam:


You are correct. Forgot TCU came back earlier. Regardless, in-game coaching is not a strong suit for ISUr


Tulsa as well.

So you said it happened 3 times. But in reality it happened once (Murray State). Which was our season opener.
Got no issues with slamming him either. Just be factual in doing so.
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