January 4th MVC games

Discuss the MVC hoops season here.

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby underdawg » January 6th, 2017, 1:33 pm

ptownbraves wrote:Nice to see Bradley get a Valley road win against a team picked ahead of them in the preseason. I'm not going to get too high on this win as they still turned it over 18 times and allowed 16 offensive rebounds, but Bradley's defense limited Evansville to 12 made field goals after locking down SIU in a similar fashion.



PLEASE SIU missed tons of completely open shots in their loss to the Gargoyles--they weren't "locked down"==you'll find that out when you come here
underdawg
MVC Role Player
MVC Role Player
 
Posts: 80
Joined: August 4th, 2010, 12:05 pm

Re: January 4th MVC games

Sponsor

Sponsor
 

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby squirrel » January 6th, 2017, 2:42 pm

Both statements are true. Locked down was probably not the greatest choice of terms. Bradley was definitely very aggressive defensively...enough to rattle the Salukis to the point that they never did start hitting their open shots, which the Braves allowed.

But the Braves have been very good about contesting shots so far in league play.
squirrel
All MVC
All MVC
 
Posts: 423
Joined: August 4th, 2010, 11:49 am

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby BuBrave2006 » January 6th, 2017, 2:47 pm

underdawg wrote:
ptownbraves wrote:Nice to see Bradley get a Valley road win against a team picked ahead of them in the preseason. I'm not going to get too high on this win as they still turned it over 18 times and allowed 16 offensive rebounds, but Bradley's defense limited Evansville to 12 made field goals after locking down SIU in a similar fashion.



PLEASE SIU missed tons of completely open shots in their loss to the Gargoyles--they weren't "locked down"==you'll find that out when you come here


You went 2-26 from three...maybe we were just letting you shoot them, and try to be a little more creative with your insults. Calling us Gargoyles is cheap and easy, not to mention dumb. You're making all the Wichita guys look clever.
BuBrave2006
MVC Role Player
MVC Role Player
 
Posts: 145
Joined: February 9th, 2015, 2:52 pm

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby Cdizzle » January 6th, 2017, 2:50 pm

Yeah! Clearly calling them clocks is betterer and more insulting!

I'm a fan of Bradley becoming one of the leaders in the league. But based on what I've seen, I'm not sure if they are actually playing good defense or if they have played some inept offenses. WSU scored 100 against them, the first time they've hung 100 in league play in 30 years. Sample sizes, I suppose. Time will tell.
Cdizzle
MVC Hall Of Famer
MVC Hall Of Famer
 
Posts: 1635
Joined: November 11th, 2010, 11:28 am

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby specialsauce » January 6th, 2017, 2:52 pm

BuBrave2006 wrote:You're making all the Wichita guys look clever.


What does this even mean?
specialsauce
MVC starter
MVC starter
 
Posts: 207
Joined: October 26th, 2016, 9:08 pm

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby Old School MVC » January 6th, 2017, 3:07 pm

Are we talking about Bradley being a Lock down Defense? They have allowed 78 pts per game in conference? And 2/3 of their games have been placed against teams picked to be in the Bottom 4 of the Conference. I am glad to see Bradley playing a little better, but please, let's not go overboard calling them a "Lock Down" Defense!
Old School MVC
MVC Bench Warmer
MVC Bench Warmer
 
Posts: 29
Joined: October 3rd, 2016, 6:19 pm

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby WSpringsBird » January 6th, 2017, 3:08 pm

specialsauce wrote:
BuBrave2006 wrote:You're making all the Wichita guys look clever.


What does this even mean?


:D
WSpringsBird
MVC Bench Warmer
MVC Bench Warmer
 
Posts: 67
Joined: May 16th, 2013, 2:21 pm

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby Stickboy46 » January 6th, 2017, 3:24 pm

Old School MVC wrote:Are we talking about Bradley being a Lock down Defense? They have allowed 78 pts per game in conference? And 2/3 of their games have been placed against teams picked to be in the Bottom 4 of the Conference. I am glad to see Bradley playing a little better, but please, let's not go overboard calling them a "Lock Down" Defense!


It's a very small sample size either way, but excluding the WSU game where they got lit up from 3 (and everywhere), the other two games they held their opponents to an average of 57. Not a bad start at least.
Stickboy46
MVC starter
MVC starter
 
Posts: 356
Joined: April 21st, 2015, 9:24 am

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby squirrel » January 6th, 2017, 3:38 pm

To be fair, Bradley is playing uptempo with an objective to get a shot off in the first 10-15 seconds of possessions. However, they have spent a few games deliberately slowing it down.

And it perhaps hasn't shown in box scores consistently, but the Braves have done a pretty good job of keeping opposing teams top 1-2 offensive threats in check. They are starting to force the rest of the team to beat them.

Additionally, BU is solidly in the top half of DI in defensive efficiency, which in and of itself is remarkable, considering where the program was last season.
Last edited by squirrel on January 6th, 2017, 3:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
squirrel
All MVC
All MVC
 
Posts: 423
Joined: August 4th, 2010, 11:49 am

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby ptownbraves » January 6th, 2017, 3:42 pm

Old School MVC wrote:Are we talking about Bradley being a Lock down Defense? They have allowed 78 pts per game in conference? And 2/3 of their games have been placed against teams picked to be in the Bottom 4 of the Conference. I am glad to see Bradley playing a little better, but please, let's not go overboard calling them a "Lock Down" Defense!


What's wrong with using a little hyperbole on a conference message board when your team has been terrible for 10 years and is now showing signs of improvement? FWIW, I excluded the WSU game in the original post.
User avatar
ptownbraves
MVC starter
MVC starter
 
Posts: 241
Joined: December 22nd, 2011, 8:05 pm

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby underdawg » January 6th, 2017, 3:42 pm

BuBrave2006 wrote:
underdawg wrote:
ptownbraves wrote:Nice to see Bradley get a Valley road win against a team picked ahead of them in the preseason. I'm not going to get too high on this win as they still turned it over 18 times and allowed 16 offensive rebounds, but Bradley's defense limited Evansville to 12 made field goals after locking down SIU in a similar fashion.



PLEASE SIU missed tons of completely open shots in their loss to the Gargoyles--they weren't "locked down"==you'll find that out when you come here


You went 2-26 from three...maybe we were just letting you shoot them, and try to be a little more creative with your insults. Calling us Gargoyles is cheap and easy, not to mention dumb. You're making all the Wichita guys look clever.



Jeese--YOUR FRICKIN MASCOT IS A GARGOYLE--you don't know that??????
underdawg
MVC Role Player
MVC Role Player
 
Posts: 80
Joined: August 4th, 2010, 12:05 pm

Re: January 4th MVC games

Postby BirdsEyeView » January 6th, 2017, 5:36 pm

I'm just happy for once it's not Shocker fans vs. Redbird fans arguing hyperbole!

Special Sauce - he was calling Shocker fans dumb.
BirdsEyeView
All MVC
All MVC
 
Posts: 612
Joined: February 28th, 2014, 12:51 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Missouri Valley Conference Basketball

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Redbirdgrad, Stickboy46 and 5 guests