Valley Game 4

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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby specialsauce » January 8th, 2017, 5:30 pm

2livewu wrote:
Bradleyfan1 wrote:I think the selection team would leave The Shock out for going backwards as a program but would award the Birds because they havnt been dancin in awhile, if they ran the table that is and lost on Sunday in St Louis.


We needed a 3rd guy to help out Brown and Kennel.
If we lose to UNI the fuse may carry to the boom.
5th through 10 wide open.

Last but not least ..... Barry's after COY



Wait, what? Are you saying WSU is out if they finish 18-0 and lose in the finals? 29-4 and the Shocks are out?


I don't think the poster is "all there". I'll just leave it at that.
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby 2livewu » January 8th, 2017, 5:36 pm

Redbirdgrad wrote:1. Wichita's name can't defend their terrible resume. No, "name alone" (since that's all you have to go on this year) can't save you.

2. That's because you made your own bed and now have to sleep in it. Bad luck? No, my friend... You make your own luck.


On what planet is ISU's resume better than WSU's?

RPI be damned.

You have losses to 8-9 Murray State, 12-3 TCU, 7-7 Tulsa (a team WSU named the score against) and 11-6 San Francisco.

Your best win is .......Ft Wayne I guess? Perhaps at Loyola? You're 4-4 away from home.

WSU has competitive losses to #13 & 11-3 Louisville, 11-6 Michigan State and a blowout loss at home to Oklahoma State who just took #1 undefeated Baylor to the buzzer at Baylor. The Shocks are 5-2 away from home. 4-0 in true road games.

WSU's best win is probably on the road at Oklahoma or on the road against 11-6 Colorado State when they were at 100% off a road win at Colorado (and by the way are a bad call from being 4-0 and leading the MWC).

Argue all you want. WSU's resume right now is substantially stronger than ISUr's. And being WSU DOES matter. Don't kid yourself.
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby specialsauce » January 8th, 2017, 5:38 pm

The poster you're referencing also isn't "all there".
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby Play Angry » January 8th, 2017, 5:40 pm

Pressure is all on the Redbirds to hold serve next week at home versus non-quality opponent Wichita State.
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby specialsauce » January 8th, 2017, 5:41 pm

Play Angry wrote:Pressure is all on the Redbirds to hold serve next week at home versus non-quality opponent Wichita State.


:D :D :+1:
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby BirdsEyeView » January 8th, 2017, 6:13 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Play Angry wrote:Pressure is all on the Redbirds to hold serve next week at home versus non-quality opponent Wichita State.


:D :D :+1:


You guys are all ridiculous. We all know Muller will blow a game at some point that we should have won.

This argument about resumes is moot right now. Both teams just need to keep winning for each other's sake.
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby Wufan » January 8th, 2017, 7:06 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Play Angry wrote:Pressure is all on the Redbirds to hold serve next week at home versus non-quality opponent Wichita State.


:D :D :+1:


You guys are all ridiculous. We all know Muller will blow a game at some point that we should have won.

This argument about resumes is moot right now. Both teams just need to keep winning for each other's sake.


WSU and ISUr are the only teams capable of getting an at-large at this point, and both of them need to win a TON of games!

WSU is expected to go 17-1 in conference and holds a 10 point+ spread in every game and an 81%+ probability of winning each of remaining games excepting for at Normal (63% probability of winning). They are expected to have an RPI of around 40.

ISUr is expected to go 14-4 and finish with an RPI around 50. Should they finish 16-2 or better (21% probability), they would finish with an RPI around 35. Both teams would be squarely on the bubble. With a championship betweeen the two in St Louis, in this scenario, they might both get in. There is also a good probability that should they finish with a combined three losses, and a third team won in St Louis, that both teams could miss.

From a bids number perspective, everyone should be rooting for their team first and ISUr/WSU after that. Obviously, should a third team emerge, or the Redbirds/Shockers loose two plus, all bets are off.
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby tribecalledquest » January 8th, 2017, 7:58 pm

specialsauce wrote:
Johhnyfingers wrote:Loyola wins 78-62 over Bradley and we saw an amazing night from Doyle. 35 points 11 rebounds


And this is why I was thinking some Bradley fans out there should pump the breaks. They took a step by winning a Valley road game this year, but they have no consistency yet. Getting drilled at home by a mid-pack team doesn't scream they're a mid-pack team to me.


Indeed.
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby PurpleAcesFootball » January 8th, 2017, 8:24 pm

Let me paraphrase the great movie "Rounders."

If you can't spot the sucker in the first 4 conference games, it's because you are the sucker.

Just pitiful. Losing to a 3-12 team, rated 320+ RPI should be unacceptable.
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Re: Valley Game 4

Postby Cdizzle » January 8th, 2017, 8:30 pm

Gotta love playing at Flop U with Janssen handing out Oscar's.
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