If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

[SubGod22]

Troll them for 2 seconds about Charles Koch Arena and watch them lose the crap....

Also, I know some of you aren't that delusional to think there are only about 15 or so jobs Marahall would take over Wichita....there have been plenty of coaches that have said, I'm here to stay...and so on and so forth....

There aren't 15 jobs. Marshall has also stated he doesn't want to coach forever. I think he'll retire in less than 10 years. IF he moves on, it'll be for a job that's well established (no rebuilding) and most likely in the South.

Of the handful of schools he'd probably consider, how many are going to hire him knowing he's only hanging around for a handful of years? Maybe they think they could entice him to stay longer, but the man has his sights on enjoying retirement with his lovely wife, on a beach and mixing in some golf. He's not going to coach so long he can't enjoy doing what he wants to.

He very well may consider Kentucky or L'ville if they opened and he were offered. UNC will stay in the family. Same with Duke. I don't see him going into the northern states to coach his final years. Maybe I'm wrong or something surprising happens with a school. I don't think it's a 100% certainty he stays until he retires, but I do think it's more likely than not. And if we get into the AAC, that likelihood goes up.

[Redbirdgrad]

IF he moves on, it'll be for a job that's well established (no rebuilding) and most likely in the South.

I completely concur with this. When does his daughter graduate. This year? I think that held him back recently.

[TheObserver]

Perennial top 30 huh?
2017 - 67
2016 - 47
2015 - 17
2014 - 4
2013 - 37
2012 - 12
2011 - 60
2010 - 43
2009 - 158
2008 - 198

Surely you aren't this obtuse, are you?
Firstly, I'm not sure why you'd include this year when the season is only 2/3 of the way through.

Let's take the average from 2010-2016 and see what we get. The whole point of that was to say that WSU has been relevant enough to be considered for an at-large bid since about 2011. That's consistency. That's something WSU has proven. Illinois State has not.

Can we get Illinois State's numbers over the same time period? And then can we assume that Illinois State is going to 5 straight NCAA Tournaments, a Sweet 16, a Final Four, and have an undefeated season? K, thanks.

[TheObserver]

the 12 to 16 has been proven false.

Unless you can predict the future, you haven't proven ****. Everything that's being argued is speculative. It's more about you not wanting to credit WSU for anything, which we all get, because of your passionate hate for them.

[TheObserver]

Troll them for 2 seconds about Charles Koch Arena and watch them lose the crap....

Ok, so we now have a self-admitted troll here from the Redbird side. I'm sure redbirdgrad will scold his own accordingly, since he does a great job at scolding them WSU fans at every turn.

[Redbirdgrad]

Perennial top 30 huh?
2017 - 67
2016 - 47
2015 - 17
2014 - 4
2013 - 37
2012 - 12
2011 - 60
2010 - 43
2009 - 158
2008 - 198

Surely you aren't this obtuse, are you?
Firstly, I'm not sure why you'd include this year when the season is only 2/3 of the way through.

Let's take the average from 2010-2016 and see what we get. The whole point of that was to say that WSU has been relevant enough to be considered for an at-large bid since about 2011. That's consistency. That's something WSU has proven. Illinois State has not.

Can we get Illinois State's numbers over the same time period? And then can we assume that Illinois State is going to 5 straight NCAA Tournaments, a Sweet 16, a Final Four, and have an undefeated season? K, thanks.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha......

YOU used the word perennial, not me. You do understand what that word means, no?
You include this season because you're currently playing it. It counts. Your RPI isn't top 30, like 6 of the other years I listed.
Now you want to go average, but you only want to use the years where you're good? Even though we can go back within 10 years to show when you weren't? And you don't want to use 2017 because it doesn't support your claim even though ITS REAL AND ITS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW???

This is the 2nd baseless claim you've made in a week that you've been called out on statistically and YOU CANT back it up. Championz math right there folks.

And what do you do when losing an argument? Move the target and attack someone else. Sorry bro, you put this bullseye on yourself and you're not talking yourself out of this one.

You say you want to come here and talk basketball but your erroneous claims make that impossible.

You chose the word bucko.... live with it.

[Play Angry]

Perennial top 30 huh?
2017 - 67
2016 - 47
2015 - 17
2014 - 4
2013 - 37
2012 - 12
2011 - 60
2010 - 43
2009 - 158
2008 - 198

3 times in the past 10 years you've been top 30.

This is inaccurate. I believe you may have used a site (perhaps ESPN?) for your historical references which saves its snapshot on Selection Sunday but does not include the postseason (and fails to capture the entire body of work and final RPI).

Here are WSU's year by year final numbers per WarrenNolan for the last 6 complete seasons:

2016: 41
2015: 12
2014: 6
2013: 18
2012: 18
2011: 35

Playing devil's advocate, a claim of perennial top 30 RPI is defensible and certainly not hyperbolic when 4 of the last 5 seasons has comfortably produced that result (with a narrow miss on making it 5 of the last 6).

Back to regularly scheduled programming.

[BirdsEyeView]

Perennial top 30 huh?
2017 - 67
2016 - 47
2015 - 17
2014 - 4
2013 - 37
2012 - 12
2011 - 60
2010 - 43
2009 - 158
2008 - 198

3 times in the past 10 years you've been top 30.

This is inaccurate. I believe you may have used a site (perhaps ESPN?) for your historical references which saves its snapshot on Selection Sunday but does not include the postseason (and fails to capture the entire body of work and final RPI).

Here are WSU's year by year final numbers per WarrenNolan for the last 6 complete seasons:

2016: 41
2015: 12
2014: 6
2013: 18
2012: 18
2011: 35

Playing devil's advocate, a claim of perennial top 30 RPI is defensible and certainly not hyperbolic when 4 of the last 5 seasons has comfortably produced that result (with a narrow miss on making it 5 of the last 6).

Back to regularly scheduled programming.

Use ncaa.com as that's the one the selection committee uses. What does that one say?
Play Angry, it appears you may also have just hand-picked Warren Nolan as it's very favorable to WSU.

[BirdsEyeView]

Troll them for 2 seconds about Charles Koch Arena and watch them lose the crap....

Ok, so we now have a self-admitted troll here from the Redbird side. I'm sure redbirdgrad will scold his own accordingly, since he does a great job at scolding them WSU fans at every turn.

Oh be nice to Redbirds4Life. Otherwise he might try to drive his car into Koch Arena to see if it's as tough as everyone says....that is if his Mommy let's him out past bedtime.

Relax.

[Play Angry]

Perennial top 30 huh?
2017 - 67
2016 - 47
2015 - 17
2014 - 4
2013 - 37
2012 - 12
2011 - 60
2010 - 43
2009 - 158
2008 - 198

3 times in the past 10 years you've been top 30.

This is inaccurate. I believe you may have used a site (perhaps ESPN?) for your historical references which saves its snapshot on Selection Sunday but does not include the postseason (and fails to capture the entire body of work and final RPI).

Here are WSU's year by year final numbers per WarrenNolan for the last 6 complete seasons:

2016: 41
2015: 12
2014: 6
2013: 18
2012: 18
2011: 35

Playing devil's advocate, a claim of perennial top 30 RPI is defensible and certainly not hyperbolic when 4 of the last 5 seasons has comfortably produced that result (with a narrow miss on making it 5 of the last 6).

Back to regularly scheduled programming.

Use ncaa.com as that's the one the selection committee uses. What does that one say?
Play Angry, it appears you may also have just hand-picked Warren Nolan as it's very favorable to WSU.

You tell me? I spent a half minute searching and did not uncover a readily available link for final RPI rankings for previous seasons on the NCAA.com site, but it was always common practice for RPI publication by the NCAA to halt once the postseason commenced. Do you know that this changed, or are you just assuming it did? Honest question. Links would be helpful - then we could see publication date and whether the records reflected in those rankings reflect the entire season's record. Those at WarrenNolan do, and Live-RPI and other sites would produce nearly identical results to those I posted above (some even more favorable).

I am nearly positive the numbers in Redbirdgrad's post are not inclusive of NCAA/NIT play. I think you jumped the gun here.

Open to being proven wrong if you have the ammo, of course.