Play Angry wrote:Interesting discussion.
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Spot on Play Angry. I didn't quote the whole thing because there's nothing to add.
Great analysis.
Play Angry wrote:Interesting discussion.
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TheAsianSensation wrote:What'cha got there, numbers?
Well done. There does need to be a caveat thrown in - we'd stay 12th in most reasonable situations, but there's a difference between being 12th and capable of producing an at-large bid, and 12th and NOT capable of producing an at-large bid.
We keep the same ranking, but the ranking won't have the same meaning.
That said, generally speaking, we avoid the doomsday scenario, and there's room for rebuild.
LanceShock wrote:If WSU left, RPI is the least of any Valley team's worries that is aspiring to get an at large bid. A bigger issue, where being in the Valley has hurt WSU the last two year, is that it removes two games from the schedule against a team that (at least for now and into the foreseeable future) that can help give a team some of the good wins needed to get an at large. If you are a Valley team and something goes wrong with your nonconference schedule (ie an injury to a key player during the nonconference or opponents performing below what would have been expected), and all of a sudden you are looking at needing to win Arch Madness to go to the NCAA tournament.
BirdsEyeView wrote:LanceShock wrote:If WSU left, RPI is the least of any Valley team's worries that is aspiring to get an at large bid. A bigger issue, where being in the Valley has hurt WSU the last two year, is that it removes two games from the schedule against a team that (at least for now and into the foreseeable future) that can help give a team some of the good wins needed to get an at large. If you are a Valley team and something goes wrong with your nonconference schedule (ie an injury to a key player during the nonconference or opponents performing below what would have been expected), and all of a sudden you are looking at needing to win Arch Madness to go to the NCAA tournament.
100% agree in the league's current state.
Can SIU get back to it's mid 2000's glory days?
ISUr is trending up every year since Muller arrived in terms of final standings in the league, can it continue? Loyola and MSU is recruiting well (coaching holding them back a bit)
UNI - Always in the mix
Bradley on a 5 year plan to regain respectability.
Some schools like ISUb are a recruit or two away (look at what Odum did to that program for 4 years).
Marginal improvement from each. Get a few in the top 100 RPI every year and better league wins can be had to improve NCAA resumes
Wufan wrote:BirdsEyeView wrote:LanceShock wrote:If WSU left, RPI is the least of any Valley team's worries that is aspiring to get an at large bid. A bigger issue, where being in the Valley has hurt WSU the last two year, is that it removes two games from the schedule against a team that (at least for now and into the foreseeable future) that can help give a team some of the good wins needed to get an at large. If you are a Valley team and something goes wrong with your nonconference schedule (ie an injury to a key player during the nonconference or opponents performing below what would have been expected), and all of a sudden you are looking at needing to win Arch Madness to go to the NCAA tournament.
100% agree in the league's current state.
Can SIU get back to it's mid 2000's glory days?
ISUr is trending up every year since Muller arrived in terms of final standings in the league, can it continue? Loyola and MSU is recruiting well (coaching holding them back a bit)
UNI - Always in the mix
Bradley on a 5 year plan to regain respectability.
Some schools like ISUb are a recruit or two away (look at what Odum did to that program for 4 years).
Marginal improvement from each. Get a few in the top 100 RPI every year and better league wins can be had to improve NCAA resumes
This should be the plan regardless of any realignment.
BCPanther wrote:Its all about non-con scheduling. There are too many teams playing way too many 250+ RPI teams.
You don't have to go crazy and schedule like UNI and Wichita do and where Illinois State is getting to (good on you Birds), but you can't play 4 SWAC schools and 3 Ohio Valley schools and hope to have anything resembling decent numbers.
I'm not sure what Wichita has outside of Oklahoma next year but I'm sure it will be very good. UNI has Battle 4 Atlantis, @ North Carolina, Xavier in Cedar Falls and Iowa State in Des Moines and its also rumored that our Mtn West game is UNLV in Cedar Falls. Even if everybody else would come half way, it would make a massive difference.
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