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Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 16th, 2018, 2:03 pm
by BirdsEyeView
Wichita....

Always riding the coattails of the tourney win shares from it's conference affiliates.

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 16th, 2018, 2:34 pm
by Red
BirdsEyeView wrote:Wichita....

Always riding the coattails of the tourney win shares from it's conference affiliates.

I assume WSU had to leave all of their tourney shares with the MVC right? Creighton too for that matter?

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 16th, 2018, 2:49 pm
by municup14
So Wichita left the MVC so they could play in a tougher conference and possibly get a higher seed in the NCAA tournament well what did that get them a freaking lost today hahaha :dance: :dance: :dance:

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 16th, 2018, 3:20 pm
by Rambler63
That so many Shocker fans seized on the Loyola addition to the conference as their reason for wanting to get out.... and now Loyola moves on with an 11 while the Shockers choke on their 4 seed.....

That CAN'T be for real, can it?

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 24th, 2018, 7:22 pm
by MissouriValleyUnite
ShoxNAwe wrote:
Redbirdgrad wrote:This is a tough one. The MVC has survived many name schools leaving, and it's still been able to right the ship.

Not so much. The Valley used to be the #1 conference in the country. If you all want to fight over being 12th or 14th or 16th if/when WSU departs, enjoy your boatride in the toilet.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hope you enjoyed March - Shakespeare loved it!

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 24th, 2018, 7:24 pm
by AndShock
We leave: We get a 4, Loyola gets an 11.

We stay: us or Loyola gets an 11

Tell me more how that's a bad move for anyone.

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 24th, 2018, 8:11 pm
by Rambler63
AndShock wrote:We leave: We get a 4, Loyola gets an 11.

We stay: us or Loyola gets an 11

Tell me more how that's a bad move for anyone.


Maybe somebody can do the math on what the RPIs for the league would be if WSU stayed and had the same non-con, and if Loyola and WSU split their conference home and home series. It would look a little more like St. Mary's and Gonzaga in the West Coast, only with Indiana State's RPI around 175 being the worst in the league.

I'm not even so sure the MVC doesn't pass the AAC for 7th highest RPI conference in that case.

So it's not a sure thing that the top of the MVC gets an 11--- with two more Q1 games, the top of the MVC could be a 7 or higher. Gonzaga got a 6 winning a lower ranked conference. Nevada got a 7 at large. Rhode Island got a 7 and St. Bonnies got an 11 as an at large out of a down A10.

The MVC looks very different from the committee's perspective if it had kept the 2016-17 membership. And if ISU had beat Florida on the road last year, they would have danced.

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 24th, 2018, 8:26 pm
by VUGrad1314
AndShock wrote:We leave: We get a 4, Loyola gets an 11.

We stay: us or Loyola gets an 11

Tell me more how that's a bad move for anyone.


Fans of a certain Lutheran college in Northwest Indiana surely aren't complaining about how everything worked out.

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 24th, 2018, 8:43 pm
by BirdsEyeView
This topic in general gets funnier and funnier.

Projecting 16 seeds and falling into the abyss says some Shox fans....

Now a team made a Final Four one year later and has made the Valley $8.2 million!

Re: If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

PostPosted: March 24th, 2018, 10:26 pm
by AndShock
BirdsEyeView wrote:This topic in general gets funnier and funnier.

Projecting 16 seeds and falling into the abyss says some Shox fans....

Now a team made a Final Four one year later and has made the Valley $8.2 million!


Everything went great for the Valley this year. UNI was 5 points away on a Friday in March from making none of this possible. The Valley needs to get to a point where a great team in Loyola doesn’t need to win 3 games in St. Louis just to have a shot at competing against the big boys. Whether that’s through non-con scheduling or expansion I don’t have the answer but someone needs to have it. The best team isn’t going to win Arch Madness every year.