Toughest Buildings in the MVC

[Redbirds4Life]

Redbirds4Life,

Did you just start watching basketball 12 months ago?

No, did you?

[Bradleyfan1]

Carver will fill again!
The sleeping GIANT will awaken. PTOWN will return from hiding. How quickly you forget.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
INWARDLEWETRUST.

[Redbirdgrad]

Carver will fill again!
The sleeping GIANT will awaken. PTOWN will return from hiding. How quickly you forget.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
INWARDLEWETRUST.

All of Division 2 you've been put on notice!!!!

[sivert]

What does the data say?

A lot of people saying, "Koch." But is their because of the team or the arena?

Data wise, I think we're looking for the team with the greatest difference between home win% and away win%.

I would say it is both because of the arena and the team. WSU has been one of the best road teams in the country the last five years. So the data would say there isn't a big difference between home and away, but they had one of the longest home winning streaks until UNI broke it last year. Their home court advantage is second to none in the Valley.

You can answer however you want, of course. To me, it's most interesting as a question to ask "building" and "team" separately. (If you're going to combine them, what is the point? We already have home win%.)
And, in order to have apples to apples, only in conference. That way you're playing the same set of teams home and away. Now, the data for WSU is limited because there aren't a lot of losses, home or away. Might have to consider MOV or other metrics to see a difference.

[Play Angry]

Quantifying is tough here because terrible teams have the largest home/road splits.

As a WSU die-hard in the 90s, Levitt Arena was a tough out but no way was it a harsher venue than Tulsa, Carbondale, Peoria, Normal or even Evansville for much of that period. It was usually 60-80% full and although those present were loud, it was not the top venue during those days but we generally performed "okay" @ home in those years.

The road, OTOH, was an exercise in humility. We might win 65% of home games and 15% of road games in a given season, with a huge spread between the two for scoring differential. Using most simple methods for quantification of the advantage, you may have rated Levitt as toughest home venue in the 90s and would probably also conclude that Levitt in the 90s > Koch in the 2010s.

Both would be wrong.

[ptownbraves]

Carver will fill again!
The sleeping GIANT will awaken. PTOWN will return from hiding. How quickly you forget.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
INWARDLEWETRUST.

All of Division 2 you've been put on notice!!!!

Guess how many years Illinois State has surpassed Bradley in average attendance the last decade of some truly terrible Bradley basketball?

None.

Maybe 2017 will finally be your year.

[BirdsEyeView]

Carver will fill again!
The sleeping GIANT will awaken. PTOWN will return from hiding. How quickly you forget.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
INWARDLEWETRUST.

All of Division 2 you've been put on notice!!!!

Guess how many years Illinois State has surpassed Bradley in average attendance the last decade of some truly terrible Bradley basketball?

None.

Maybe 2017 will finally be your year.

Our attendance always sucks, but the product on the floor has been much better than yours

[Wufan]

Our attendance always sucks, but the product on the floor has been much better than yours

I thought this was about the toughest arena? Try to stay on topic.

I don't think looking at the toughest arena can in anyway eliminate attendance and/or % capacity and still be credible. Winning is equally important in that a completely full raucous crowd that supports a loser is of no advantage.

Perhaps a metric that utilized KenPom to determine the number of games that should have been won vs the number actually won would help to distinguish?

[Redbirdgrad]

Carver will fill again!
The sleeping GIANT will awaken. PTOWN will return from hiding. How quickly you forget.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
INWARDLEWETRUST.

All of Division 2 you've been put on notice!!!!

Guess how many years Illinois State has surpassed Bradley in average attendance the last decade of some truly terrible Bradley basketball?

None.

Maybe 2017 will finally be your year.

Guess how many years our school has pondered going D-2 due to crappy athletics, coaching, and administration?

None.

[Old School MVC]

Bradley counts their attendance as Tickets SOLD

Most others count their attendance as People at the game.