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Old School MVC wrote:Bradley counts their attendance as Tickets SOLD

Most others count their attendance as People at the game.

Not quite. Most schools report tickets sold rather than butts in seats. Bradley is no exception, and even if they have a lower % of butts in seats vs sales, their attendance is still admirable considering the state of the program. Not sure why you'd try and show that the Braves are second class based on this metric. There are several things they've sucked at recently, but support is t one of them. Same goes for WSU and Koch arena...you are more likely to look ignorant than cause any loss of face with that those kinds of silly remarks.

Wufan wrote:

Old School MVC wrote:Bradley counts their attendance as Tickets SOLD

Most others count their attendance as People at the game.

Not quite. Most schools report tickets sold rather than butts in seats. Bradley is no exception, and even if they have a lower % of butts in seats vs sales, their attendance is still admirable considering the state of the program. Not sure why you'd try and show that the Braves are second class based on this metric. There are several things they've sucked at recently, but support is t one of them. Same goes for WSU and Koch arena...you are more likely to look ignorant than cause any loss of face with that those kinds of silly remarks.

Exactly! I'd love to see the support the Redbirds would get with similar results to Bradley.

That said, I expect no less than a 2017 Sweet 16 run from the Redbirds.

Wufan wrote:

Old School MVC wrote:Bradley counts their attendance as Tickets SOLD

Most others count their attendance as People at the game.

Not quite. Most schools report tickets sold rather than butts in seats. Bradley is no exception, and even if they have a lower % of butts in seats vs sales, their attendance is still admirable considering the state of the program. Not sure why you'd try and show that the Braves are second class based on this metric. There are several things they've sucked at recently, but support is t one of them. Same goes for WSU and Koch arena...you are more likely to look ignorant than cause any loss of face with that those kinds of silly remarks.

I am not trying to show them as second class. Bradley was spouting off about attendance, but their "attendance" reported is not how many people were at a game. I agree, if most schools in the Valley had fallen on hard times like the Braves, they would not get many of the tickets sold. My point is though, don't talk about your attendance when it is not actually your attendance.

Old School MVC wrote:

Wufan wrote:

Old School MVC wrote:Bradley counts their attendance as Tickets SOLD

Most others count their attendance as People at the game.

Not quite. Most schools report tickets sold rather than butts in seats. Bradley is no exception, and even if they have a lower % of butts in seats vs sales, their attendance is still admirable considering the state of the program. Not sure why you'd try and show that the Braves are second class based on this metric. There are several things they've sucked at recently, but support is t one of them. Same goes for WSU and Koch arena...you are more likely to look ignorant than cause any loss of face with that those kinds of silly remarks.

I am not trying to show them as second class. Bradley was spouting off about attendance, but their "attendance" reported is not how many people were at a game. I agree, if most schools in the Valley had fallen on hard times like the Braves, they would not get many of the tickets sold. My point is though, don't talk about your attendance when it is not actually your attendance.

I agree. I would love for Bradley to actually announce attendance!

Redbirdgrad wrote:
Guess how many years our school has pondered going D-2 due to crappy athletics, coaching, and administration?

None.

This is news to me. Where did you hear Bradley pondered going D2?

Let's ask another question - rank the home courts based on how well they look on TV.
The eye test for fans outside of the conference

I'd still have Koch at the top, but Gentile and Knapp also play well on TV. (sorry for any spelling errors)

The Ford Center is probably at the bottom, fans are too far away with it being primarily a hockey arena, with a true basketball layout not available.

UE-grad wrote:Let's ask another question - rank the home courts based on how well they look on TV.
The eye test for fans outside of the conference

I'd still have Koch at the top, but Gentile and Knapp also play well on TV. (sorry for any spelling errors)

The Ford Center is probably at the bottom, fans are too far away with it being primarily a hockey arena, with a true basketball layout not available.

Gentile and Knapp typically have way too many empty seats on TV. At least the games I've seen. Though I'm not sure if I've seen anything as bad as the Wichita game at Indy State. The one thing Gentile has is it's small enough that it doesn't take a huge boost in attendance to make it look OK.

https://twitter.com/PaulSuellentrop/sta ... 3174067202

I feel like this tweet holds some weight. Coming from Wichita's own beat writer.

Wow. Never realized ticket envy was a real thing.

Old School MVC wrote:Bradley counts their attendance as Tickets SOLD

Most others count their attendance as People at the game.

Big Difference and great point