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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby Cdizzle » February 17th, 2017, 2:51 pm

Only one of these teams is in trouble.....the other is getting an auto bid.
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby Redbirds4Life » February 17th, 2017, 2:56 pm

Cdizzle wrote:Only one of these teams is in trouble.....the other is getting an auto bid.


The bubble watch is talking about their At-Large possibilities, so yeah, both are in trouble.
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby TheObserver » February 17th, 2017, 3:00 pm

Redbirds4Life wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:Only one of these teams is in trouble.....the other is getting an auto bid.


The bubble watch is talking about their At-Large possibilities, so yeah, both are in trouble.


Like a bird, I think his post flew right over your head.
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby Redbirds4Life » February 17th, 2017, 3:09 pm

TheObserver wrote:
Redbirds4Life wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:Only one of these teams is in trouble.....the other is getting an auto bid.


The bubble watch is talking about their At-Large possibilities, so yeah, both are in trouble.


Like a bird, I think his post flew right over your head.


My bad, I don't always catch the Wichita State humor....
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby Cdizzle » February 17th, 2017, 3:11 pm

Redbirds4Life wrote:
TheObserver wrote:
Redbirds4Life wrote:
The bubble watch is talking about their At-Large possibilities, so yeah, both are in trouble.


Like a bird, I think his post flew right over your head.


My bad, I don't always catch the Wichita State humor....

It is a little 'high-brow.'
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby TheAsianSensation » February 18th, 2017, 6:08 pm

Wichita St is quickly approaching polarizing status.

(the below is all assuming they win out to the finals in St Louis and lose to Illinois St in what I can only assume would be a sign of the apocalypse)

If they get an at-large bid, they will simply have one of the worst at-large resumes to ever get a NCAA bid.

If they don't get an at-large bid, they will become one of the best teams from an analytics standpoint to ever miss the NCAA tournament.

It's those two extremes, and nothing else. One will come true, and one won't. No matter what, a new precedent would be set with Wichita St. If they miss, the analytics crowd will be mad, and rightfully so. If they make, the resume crowd will be mad, and rightfully so.

And frankly, we should stop pretending like there's a right answer on what to do with them. They're an outlier in every way. This is a nearly unprecedented case. We just have to admit that no matter what, some people will be mad as hell, and that this is a paradoxical situation with no solution that will make most people happy. There's no right way for the selection committee to handle this one.
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby TheObserver » February 18th, 2017, 6:21 pm

Which means, if you're a mid, you're getting bounced. Period.
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby Khan4Cats » February 18th, 2017, 6:56 pm

TheObserver wrote:Which means, if you're a mid, you're getting bounced. Period.


I'm sure the committee will have a sound reason for putting the 11th ACC or 9th Big 10+4 team in over the Shockers when it comes down to it. They always seem to be able to move the bar to whatever fits.
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby TheObserver » February 18th, 2017, 7:40 pm

Khan4Cats wrote:
TheObserver wrote:Which means, if you're a mid, you're getting bounced. Period.


I'm sure the committee will have a sound reason for putting the 11th ACC or 9th Big 10+4 team in over the Shockers when it comes down to it. They always seem to be able to move the bar to whatever fits.


That and they stupidly underseed the hell out of them, which ironically, hurts the P5 hacks. See UNI in 2010. See WSU in 2015. Fortunately, both of those worked out.

Against the same team.
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Re: Big dance possibilities

Postby Play Angry » February 20th, 2017, 4:15 pm

Today's version of ESPN Bracketology has WSU as a 9 seed, ISUr as the first team out.

OTOH, the composite of BracketMatrix participants has WSU as a 10 seed (avg. 9.75; in 89 of 94 brackets) and ISUr as an 11 seed (avg 11.22; in 55 of 94 brackets).
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