Game 17

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Re: Game 17

Postby Stickboy46 » February 22nd, 2017, 10:09 am

shockem wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:WSU has now passed ISUr on field goal percentage defense. WSU is #3 and ISUr #5 in the nation.

When you combine that defense with this potent offense, no wonder they're killing everyone. I believe the Shox are better this year than last year as they don't have the deficiencies on offense that exposed them a year ago.


You're right about that. Last year we had 6'5" Evan Wessel at power forward and Anton Grady, who had the knees of a 45 year old man at center. Shaq was still a young fouling machine that was only good for 10 mpg. We had a lot of guys improve their games this year (Kelly, Morris, Frankamp and Nurger in particular) plus the addition of Shamet and Willis, our roster has upgraded overall even though we lost 2 NBA guards. What has really put this team on the right path was solidifying our 2 guard spots with Shamet and Frankamp.


Someone else said "You can't lose 2 NBA Guards and maintain unless you fill those spots with NBA guards".

I don't think anyone could convince me at this point that Shamet doesn't have NBA Potential. 6'4 ridiculously athletic PG Shooting 45% from 3, 83% from the line, and a 3 to 1 Assist to TO ratio? He's going to get looks.
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Re: Game 17

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 22nd, 2017, 10:12 am

Redbirds4Life wrote:I call it like I see it. In all honesty, Northern Iowa basketball is probably my 2nd most hated sports team. Still, I shouldn't have to explain why I am picking UNI and believe they are better than anyone is giving them credit for. If you guys think I am wrong, so be it. I don't like cdizzle at all, but the fact that he didn't take the time to call me out, showed me that I might want to just show a bit of class and give him the nod on that one.

How bout this, tell me why you are picking Indiana State? If you feel my taking UNI is so bad, tell me why you think the trees get it done. I don't think I have a read a real reason on why anyone is picking Indiana State. That's a much better discussion than, "oh he just loves UNI."


Never said that Indiana State was going to win, but I suggested it is not a slam dunk as you implied with how this game was going to end up. When one person continues to overvalue UNI due to the coach and their history as a team, despite the stats opposing it, then I was simply looking out for you.

From a betting perspective, it's a game to stay away from, given it's on the road and with their major struggles on the offensive end (again #298 Kenpom ranking on offense).
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Re: Game 17

Postby Stickboy46 » February 22nd, 2017, 10:14 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
Redbirds4Life wrote:I call it like I see it. In all honesty, Northern Iowa basketball is probably my 2nd most hated sports team. Still, I shouldn't have to explain why I am picking UNI and believe they are better than anyone is giving them credit for. If you guys think I am wrong, so be it. I don't like cdizzle at all, but the fact that he didn't take the time to call me out, showed me that I might want to just show a bit of class and give him the nod on that one.

How bout this, tell me why you are picking Indiana State? If you feel my taking UNI is so bad, tell me why you think the trees get it done. I don't think I have a read a real reason on why anyone is picking Indiana State. That's a much better discussion than, "oh he just loves UNI."


Never said that Indiana State was going to win, but I suggested it is not a slam dunk as you implied with how this game was going to end up. When one person continues to overvalue UNI due to the coach and their history as a team, despite the stats opposing it, then I was simply looking out for you.

From a betting perspective, it's a game to stay away from, given it's on the road and with their major struggles on the offensive end (again #298 Kenpom ranking on offense).


Shhh .. he's 0-1 so far, just let it play out.
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Re: Game 17

Postby Redbirds4Life » February 22nd, 2017, 10:23 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
Redbirds4Life wrote:I call it like I see it. In all honesty, Northern Iowa basketball is probably my 2nd most hated sports team. Still, I shouldn't have to explain why I am picking UNI and believe they are better than anyone is giving them credit for. If you guys think I am wrong, so be it. I don't like cdizzle at all, but the fact that he didn't take the time to call me out, showed me that I might want to just show a bit of class and give him the nod on that one.

How bout this, tell me why you are picking Indiana State? If you feel my taking UNI is so bad, tell me why you think the trees get it done. I don't think I have a read a real reason on why anyone is picking Indiana State. That's a much better discussion than, "oh he just loves UNI."


Never said that Indiana State was going to win, but I suggested it is not a slam dunk as you implied with how this game was going to end up. When one person continues to overvalue UNI due to the coach and their history as a team, despite the stats opposing it, then I was simply looking out for you.

From a betting perspective, it's a game to stay away from, given it's on the road and with their major struggles on the offensive end (again #298 Kenpom ranking on offense).


Dude, if are betting on sports, nothing is a slam dunk. When you see a team that has been winning every game against the other 7 for the last month, playing probably the worst team in the league and has a superior coach(even though I think Lansing is pretty decent) that's a pretty easy game to take. Jacobson teams are usually playing some of their best basketball in February/March anyways. I am sorry, but if you had to bet the game, you are probably taking Northern Iowa.
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Re: Game 17

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 22nd, 2017, 10:24 am

Stickboy46 wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Redbirds4Life wrote:I call it like I see it. In all honesty, Northern Iowa basketball is probably my 2nd most hated sports team. Still, I shouldn't have to explain why I am picking UNI and believe they are better than anyone is giving them credit for. If you guys think I am wrong, so be it. I don't like cdizzle at all, but the fact that he didn't take the time to call me out, showed me that I might want to just show a bit of class and give him the nod on that one.

How bout this, tell me why you are picking Indiana State? If you feel my taking UNI is so bad, tell me why you think the trees get it done. I don't think I have a read a real reason on why anyone is picking Indiana State. That's a much better discussion than, "oh he just loves UNI."


Never said that Indiana State was going to win, but I suggested it is not a slam dunk as you implied with how this game was going to end up. When one person continues to overvalue UNI due to the coach and their history as a team, despite the stats opposing it, then I was simply looking out for you.

From a betting perspective, it's a game to stay away from, given it's on the road and with their major struggles on the offensive end (again #298 Kenpom ranking on offense).


Shhh .. he's 0-1 so far, just let it play out.


Lol. I don't think my posts are changing his mind. He clearly has his mind set no matter the contrary. It's like coming to the aid of a sinking ship, but he won't reach his hand out to save him from drowning.
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Re: Game 17

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 22nd, 2017, 10:26 am

Redbirds4Life wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Redbirds4Life wrote:I call it like I see it. In all honesty, Northern Iowa basketball is probably my 2nd most hated sports team. Still, I shouldn't have to explain why I am picking UNI and believe they are better than anyone is giving them credit for. If you guys think I am wrong, so be it. I don't like cdizzle at all, but the fact that he didn't take the time to call me out, showed me that I might want to just show a bit of class and give him the nod on that one.

How bout this, tell me why you are picking Indiana State? If you feel my taking UNI is so bad, tell me why you think the trees get it done. I don't think I have a read a real reason on why anyone is picking Indiana State. That's a much better discussion than, "oh he just loves UNI."


Never said that Indiana State was going to win, but I suggested it is not a slam dunk as you implied with how this game was going to end up. When one person continues to overvalue UNI due to the coach and their history as a team, despite the stats opposing it, then I was simply looking out for you.

From a betting perspective, it's a game to stay away from, given it's on the road and with their major struggles on the offensive end (again #298 Kenpom ranking on offense).


Dude, if are betting on sports, nothing is a slam dunk. When you see a team that has been winning every game against the other 7 for the last month, playing probably the worst team in the league and has a superior coach(even though I think Lansing is pretty decent) that's a pretty easy game to take. Jacobson teams are usually playing some of their best basketball in February/March anyways. I am sorry, but if you had to bet the game, you are probably taking Northern Iowa.


See.

Again with the history of UNI and Jacobson. All I have suggested is stay away from betting this game...
I am done with you on this topic. Lost cause. I am very surprised Fever hasn't chimed in yet.
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Re: Game 17

Postby salukisideline » February 22nd, 2017, 10:32 am

If it's late February, I'm going with Jacobson vs. non-WSU team every day of the week.
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Re: Game 17

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 22nd, 2017, 10:36 am

salukisideline wrote:If it's late February, I'm going with Jacobson vs. non-WSU team every day of the week.


Again...history. What year is this? What players are trotting out? Adam Koch? Wes Washpun?
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Re: Game 17

Postby Horn28Clem30 » February 22nd, 2017, 10:38 am

I'm clearly on record that I despise everything UNI, but there is zero chance you could get me to take Indiana State in this game. It's either UNI or no bet IMO...just my two cents though.
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Re: Game 17

Postby uniftw » February 22nd, 2017, 10:52 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
salukisideline wrote:If it's late February, I'm going with Jacobson vs. non-WSU team every day of the week.


Again...history. What year is this? What players are trotting out? Adam Koch? Wes Washpun?

What about current season?

UNI vs non WSU and ISUr teams in conference since Jan 11th, 2017
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
W

So, against anyone not named Wichita State or Illinois State UNI is 9-0 over the last 42 days.

Granted, that's ignoring the historical date, which shows between Jan 20th and Arch Madness UNI wins 72% of it's games.

It'd be smarter to bring UNI's record in the state of Indiana as a justification for not picking UNI, more than "THEY DON'T HAVE ADAM KOCH ANYMORE". I'd hate to do your smack talking for you though
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