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Postby BirdsEyeView » March 13th, 2017, 10:00 am

Dan Muller is going after Power 5 Schools and the Committee. I love this...

Check his twitter handle: https://twitter.com/DanMuller

Read this article: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/co ... story.html

I hope more mid-major coaches hop on board. Yes, they should have beaten Murray and Tulsa, but as we all know the chips are stacked against mid-majors regardless. P5 schools don't want to play us in the non-conference, yet we are judged by our lack of quality wins over said P5 schools during the selection process...
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Re: Love This!

Postby Red » March 13th, 2017, 10:50 am

"Our staff probably called 25 of the schools that made it to see if they would play us. What do they want us to do?"


He should go ahead and name them. They aren't coming to Normal anyway, so who cares if you piss them off.
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Re: Love This!

Postby Horton89 » March 13th, 2017, 10:59 am

I wonder if he had any of these conversations with these coaches/programs while at Vandy. He had access to the SEC. I do like his tweet.
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Re: Love This!

Postby Aces1982 » March 13th, 2017, 11:07 am

I like him calling teams out. I think it should be public of who turned down what.

But getting a home and home is probably a stretch from most of these teams. 2 for 1 or 1 on the road would be more likely. And when you are trying to improve your team and schedule, you have to have the mentality to play anyone, anywhere.
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Re: Love This!

Postby Red » March 13th, 2017, 11:09 am

Aces1982 wrote:I like him calling teams out. I think it should be public of who turned down what.

But getting a home and home is probably a stretch from most of these teams. 2 for 1 or 1 on the road would be more likely. And when you are trying to improve your team and schedule, you have to have the mentality to play anyone, anywhere.

We can probably all agree that P5 schools aren't coming to Normal. Maybe we could get a game in Chicago instead?
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Re: Love This!

Postby Cdizzle » March 13th, 2017, 11:15 am

Red wrote:We can probably all agree that P5 schools aren't coming to Normal.

I think pretty much everyone in the country will agree with this.

What they won't do, is openly acknowledge that this fact shouldn't be held against ISU.

It is what it is. The MVC is now officially a 1-bid league.
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Re: Love This!

Postby WSpringsBird » March 13th, 2017, 11:56 am

Wardle raised the same topic yesterday.

https://twitter.com/BUBrianWardle/statu ... 7895858177

Not that this is a new complaint, but maybe a Festivus-style airing of grievances is at least cathartic.

It's amazing to me how things have changed. At the risk of sounding like an old guy, I remember that in my first year at ISU, 1987, the Redbirds had three games against ranked power conference teams: Purdue, Iowa, and Oklahoma. The Purdue game was actually in Normal and was really competitive. The Birds beat Iowa and then got smoked by Tisdale & Company. It's still possible to get lucky with a tournament draw and get a game or two against a ranked team, but I don't think we'll ever again see a ranked Big 10 team play in Normal. As Cdizzle said, it is what it is.
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Re: Love This!

Postby squirrel » March 13th, 2017, 12:01 pm

Did ISU fight for a better MWC Challenge opponent than New Mexico? Did they offer to go on the road for the event to do so?

I get that coaches like to say scheduling is hard, and I know certain aspects of it are, but they make it hard on themselves.
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Re: Love This!

Postby BirdsEyeView » March 13th, 2017, 12:19 pm

squirrel wrote:Did ISU fight for a better MWC Challenge opponent than New Mexico? Did they offer to go on the road for the event to do so?

I get that coaches like to say scheduling is hard, and I know certain aspects of it are, but they make it hard on themselves.


I think MWC Challenge schedules are dictated by the leagues...so no say in that.

This is not an unheard of complaint. All good mid-majors can't get a good high major on their schedule, especially not a home game. They are not playing on level fields here and haven't for quite some time.
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Re: Love This!

Postby BCPanther » March 13th, 2017, 12:28 pm

Success does nothing but assure that no P5 team will play in your building.

Iowa and Iowa State stopped coming to Cedar Falls as soon as we beat them consistently. Carolina was a crazy circumstance and beating them almost made things worse long term because anybody on the fence is a strong no now. Somehow Jake worked his magic and got Xavier to come here next year, but Xavier is headed for a big time rebuilding year, so Mack was probably okay with going on the road in exchange for what should have been a good home game for him this year. Too bad we fell apart and they fell apart.
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Re: Love This!

Postby Stickboy46 » March 13th, 2017, 12:50 pm

Muller Actually got a twitter response from the Ole Miss AD and Coach saying they would love to match up. Muller responded that he will be reaching out to them today.
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Re: Love This!

Postby squirrel » March 13th, 2017, 12:59 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:Muller Actually got a twitter response from the Ole Miss AD and Coach saying they would love to match up. Muller responded that he will be reaching out to them today.


There are still power 5 schools that will do this...Ole Miss is a great example of one that will...Bradley has had multi-year deals with Michigan State, Iowa State, Ole Miss, TCU, South Florida, and Michigan over the last 10 or so years alone. They also had quality out-of-conference series with postseason level programs Western Carolina, Wofford, and Texas Arlington. They lost most of them. Many coaches are too protective of their W-L record and will shy away from those kinds of games.

They're there...but you also have to plan them out over time, when you anticipate or target being good, that schedule is usually mapped out 2-3 years in advance. That's a large part why Bradley's schedule was so murderous for them last year...it was supposed to be Geno's big year with the second year under his big recruiting class. Instead, it ended up being Wardle with 11 horribly overmatched frosh.
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