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Re: Love This!

Postby Mike » March 13th, 2017, 4:17 pm

Look how the power conferences in BB (Football Power 5 plus BE) did in terms of getting teams into the NCAA this year:

ACC: 9 of 15 member schools (60.0%)
Big 12: 6 of 10 (60.0%)
Big East: 7 of 10 (70.0%)
Big Ten: 7 of 14 (50.0%)
Pac-12: 4 of 12 (33.3%)
SEC: 5 of 14 (35.7%)

The only other conferences to get more than one team in were:

American: 2 of 11 member schools (18.2%)
Atlantic 10: 3 of 14 (21.4%)
West Coast: 2 of 10 (20.0%)

Muller wants home and home games with one of the first six conferences I mentioned. He may need to start by being willing to play away games with one or more of those schools. I would think there would be a greater chance of that happening and perhaps a better upside for Illinois State (or any other MVC team). As an NCAA selection committee member said yesterday, they look at who you play, where you play them, and the result. So a road victory against a team from one of those six conferences would mean more than a home victory. It's a start.
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Re: Love This!

Postby BirdsEyeView » March 13th, 2017, 4:34 pm

Mike wrote:Look how the power conferences in BB (Football Power 5 plus BE) did in terms of getting teams into the NCAA this year:

ACC: 9 of 15 member schools (60.0%)
Big 12: 6 of 10 (60.0%)
Big East: 7 of 10 (70.0%)
Big Ten: 7 of 14 (50.0%)
Pac-12: 4 of 12 (33.3%)
SEC: 5 of 14 (35.7%)

The only other conferences to get more than one team in were:

American: 2 of 11 member schools (18.2%)
Atlantic 10: 3 of 14 (21.4%)
West Coast: 2 of 10 (20.0%)

Muller wants home and home games with one of the first six conferences I mentioned. He may need to start by being willing to play away games with one or more of those schools. I would think there would be a greater chance of that happening and perhaps a better upside for Illinois State (or any other MVC team). As an NCAA selection committee member said yesterday, they look at who you play, where you play them, and the result. So a road victory against a team from one of those six conferences would mean more than a home victory. It's a start.


He said his tweet for home and home was an exaggeration. He said he called trying to do buy games and everyone said "no way, you're too good this year"

He would absolutely play road games and has in the past at big schools
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Re: Love This!

Postby Wufan » March 13th, 2017, 5:42 pm

squirrel wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:Muller Actually got a twitter response from the Ole Miss AD and Coach saying they would love to match up. Muller responded that he will be reaching out to them today.


There are still power 5 schools that will do this...Ole Miss is a great example of one that will...Bradley has had multi-year deals with Michigan State, Iowa State, Ole Miss, TCU, South Florida, and Michigan over the last 10 or so years alone. They also had quality out-of-conference series with postseason level programs Western Carolina, Wofford, and Texas Arlington. They lost most of them. Many coaches are too protective of their W-L record and will shy away from those kinds of games.

They're there...but you also have to plan them out over time, when you anticipate or target being good, that schedule is usually mapped out 2-3 years in advance. That's a large part why Bradley's schedule was so murderous for them last year...it was supposed to be Geno's big year with the second year under his big recruiting class. Instead, it ended up being Wardle with 11 horribly overmatched frosh.


Bradley has been bad for the last decade. A bad MVC team is a glorious find for P5. No chance they win and the MVC will prop up their RPI much more than a bad summit or horizon team.
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Re: Love This!

Postby TheObserver » March 13th, 2017, 6:16 pm

Mike wrote:Look how the power conferences in BB (Football Power 5 plus BE) did in terms of getting teams into the NCAA this year:

ACC: 9 of 15 member schools (60.0%)
Big 12: 6 of 10 (60.0%)
Big East: 7 of 10 (70.0%)
Big Ten: 7 of 14 (50.0%)
Pac-12: 4 of 12 (33.3%)
SEC: 5 of 14 (35.7%)

The only other conferences to get more than one team in were:

American: 2 of 11 member schools (18.2%)
Atlantic 10: 3 of 14 (21.4%)
West Coast: 2 of 10 (20.0%)

Muller wants home and home games with one of the first six conferences I mentioned. He may need to start by being willing to play away games with one or more of those schools. I would think there would be a greater chance of that happening and perhaps a better upside for Illinois State (or any other MVC team). As an NCAA selection committee member said yesterday, they look at who you play, where you play them, and the result. So a road victory against a team from one of those six conferences would mean more than a home victory. It's a start.


1.) The BIG EAST is not a power conference
2.) The selection committee is flawed (pretty apparent)
3.) Nobody here needs lecturing from a Creighton fan
3.) a.) Especially when said program can't even get out of the first weekend of the NCAA's like ever
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Re: Love This!

Postby squirrel » March 13th, 2017, 6:25 pm

Wufan wrote:
Bradley has been bad for the last decade. A bad MVC team is a glorious find for P5. No chance they win and the MVC will prop up their RPI much more than a bad summit or horizon team.


While true, they were not bad yet when the got the Michigan St and Iowa St series.
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Re: Love This!

Postby matter_of_fact » March 14th, 2017, 7:57 am

Observer - You're way too transparent, man! The reason for your reaction to a poster including the BE as a top 6 conference is all about that conference having Creighton in it and your feeling that therefore it must be a conference of no account. Whether you or I like it or not, the Big East is a power conference in basketball. The facts support that conclusion.
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Re: Love This!

Postby acesfool » March 14th, 2017, 11:10 am

The Big East does have the current national champion in it.
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