The Ballad of Illinois State, by Ken Pomeroy

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Re: The Ballad of Illinois State, by Ken Pomeroy

Postby MSUDuo » March 15th, 2017, 6:59 pm

Flip it.

Regular season champs get the auto to the Dance and then play the conference tournament for an auto bid into the NIT. Pick best finisher if winner gets selected into the Dance
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Postby Wufan » March 15th, 2017, 7:09 pm

MSUDuo wrote:Flip it.

Regular season champs get the auto to the Dance and then play the conference tournament for an auto bid into the NIT. Pick best finisher if winner gets selected into the Dance


:huh:

Back in the way back, NCAA had one rep from every conference. The NIT had the best remaining teams. I still kinda like that.
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Re: The Ballad of Illinois State, by Ken Pomeroy

Postby Redbird Recon » March 17th, 2017, 7:51 am

I wish KP would've used Providence or USC as his example. ISU finished better than both in RPI, KP and Sagarin.
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Re: The Ballad of Illinois State, by Ken Pomeroy

Postby achrist70 » March 19th, 2017, 8:15 pm

There are two major flaws in how teams are selected and seeded.

First off, who is on the selection committee, they are all ADs and 5 of the 6 power conferences are represented. I am not saying ADs are not knowledgeable on college basketball, but the job of Athletic Director at a university can not allow enough time to truly know enough about all of these teams that they are selecting and therefore with the major conferences represented almost fully they are going to know more about these teams and selected them, also and AD is going to worry about the financial part of selecting more than the actual basketball so you want your conference represented.

Secondly power 5 conferences are not punished for a weak non conference schedule, so many power 5 and 1 teams play nobody in the non conference portion of the schedule other than a rival or in a pre season tournament. However they get rewarded for being in the same conference as a Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky or Michigan State who go out and play a highly competitive early schedule. Instead they get the SOS increase once they get to conference play because the big dogs play each other. With this and the mid major cellar dwellers losing to many of these at large teams it is hard to seed a team like Wichita who honestly should have been a 4 or 5 but ended up a 10.

I think that you need a selection committee made up of former coaches (possibly 5 one for each part of the country), after that I think you could include a few media members, possibly basketball officials, and a couple of school administrators. But with the committee set up the way it is and who the power is situated in the NCAA this will never correct itself. To me the division of the 36 at large bids should lead to at least a dozen mid major schools getting 1 not 3 like this year, and with those 3 at large are very well known teams.
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