Sounds like Wichita St to the AAC... Who gets an Invite?

[Wufan]

Why are WSU fans even interested n this discussion? I have not seen a WSU fan post anything positive about this conference in a couple of years. they have indicated they are leaving. Why do they care what the conference does? I know hat they want to come on here and feel superior, but other than that what purpose does it serve? Why not let those who actually have an interest in who we might get to join the conference have the discussion?

I like the Valley and care about it. No matter what WSU does, they will never be in a P5 conference, and what happens to the Valley is important to college basketball and WSU.

[MidWestMidMajor]

I think the decision to replace Wichita is MORE important than the decision to replace Creighton. Why? The first decision was to replace a school. This decision will signal a vision for the conference that schools will rally around... or take as a cue to seek the exits.

Jeff Kolpack's article points out that mid-major conferences chasing markets (ex. Loyola ...or maybe UMKC) is chasing after a bubble. He says, "A good mid-major league is more about a good core of schools that have some resources behind them." Todd Golden's article has this insightful quote: "The MVC should survive and could thrive again if there's a unified vision in the league."

So what is that unified vision? When the National Collegiate Hockey Conference (NCHC) was formed during the chaos of realignment in hockey, their vision was clear: We want schools that will make BIG commitments to their hockey program. I believe their criteria were budget, coaches, and facilities. Notice that 2 of 4 teams in the "Frozen Four" are from the NCHC (Denver and UM-Duluth).

What could that mean for MVC 2.0? A team to replace Wichita has to have a big time commitment to success in basketball as measured by overall budget, coach's salary, and quality of facilities. They should also have some recent success not just the "potential of success".

My first choice is Murray State, my #2 is Valpo (because they are waiting for a call from the A10). The OVC is #24 in rpi; Horizon is #18, the MVC is #12. That leap up could be enticing. If Belmont is not interested, my #3 is Denver; I think they bring a lot to the table and would love to be in a conference with quality private schools, and the MVC has that. (And I just wish Las Cruces NM was closer.)

[Cdizzle]

Why are WSU fans even interested n this discussion? I have not seen a WSU fan post anything positive about this conference in a couple of years. they have indicated they are leaving. Why do they care what the conference does? I know hat they want to come on here and feel superior, but other than that what purpose does it serve? Why not let those who actually have an interest in who we might get to join the conference have the discussion?

Because it's interesting watching people dream up inventive ideas of how to improve the conference after accepting and excusing mediocrity (or let's be honest, worse) for a decade. Everyone is listing things they want the league and their schools to do in order to improve the league once WSU leaves. Elgin is walking around like a giant sadsack. It would be pretty entertaining if it wasn't so sad.

[municup14]

So I'm assuming that if Wichita leaves it will be immediately.What if the
Other conference they join won't allow them to be eligible immediately.You don't
Think they all know Wichita is loaded next year.
Or, Wichita decides to stick around for at least 1more year and their departure
Could be lesser.

[Wufan]

So I'm assuming that if Wichita leaves it will be immediately.What if the
Other conference they join won't allow them to be eligible immediately.You don't
Think they all know Wichita is loaded next year.
Or, Wichita decides to stick around for at least 1more year and their departure
Could be lesser.

The timetable has not been set (nor any invite for that matter). If the AAC will allow WSU in next year, my assumption is that WSU will make that happen.

[Redhawk]

Does anyone know the voting approval process for confirming a new member into the Valley?
Is it a simple majority or 2/3 or 3/4 of the vote. Also would Elgin or the league office get a vote?

[Snaggletooth]

Does anyone know the voting approval process for confirming a new member into the Valley?
Is it a simple majority or 2/3 or 3/4 of the vote. Also would Elgin or the league office get a vote?

3/4 vote is required

[municup14]

Wichita leaving is more than just the basketball team.Can you
Imagine the scheduling headache it would produce for all the
Other sports as well.This isn't just a basketball decision, it's a
All sports decision.
I like to see how much Creighton's travel budget increased.

[BlueChipShock]

Wichita leaving is more than just the basketball team.Can you
Imagine the scheduling headache it would produce for all the
Other sports as well.This isn't just a basketball decision, it's a
All sports decision.
I like to see how much Creighton's travel budget increased.

Probably not as much travel for WSU as you think..East and West Divisions. WSU would have conference home and home games with. SMU (Dallas), Tulsa, Tulane (New Orleans), Houston and Memphis.....and 3 road games every other year with other six. You know fun places to visit like Orlando. Now places like New Orleans and Dallas may not be on par with Peoria or Carbondale as far as destinations go but we will suffer thru it ....If it happens, it will be announced either at the F4 or right after. The NCAA coaches conference is always at the F4 so betting something is announced Sunday or Tuesday.

[SubGod22]

Wichita leaving is more than just the basketball team.Can you
Imagine the scheduling headache it would produce for all the
Other sports as well.This isn't just a basketball decision, it's a
All sports decision.
I like to see how much Creighton's travel budget increased.

Probably not as much travel for WSU as you think..East and West Divisions. WSU would have conference home and home games with. SMU (Dallas), Tulsa, Tulane (New Orleans), Houston and Memphis.....and 3 road games every other year with other six. You know fun places to visit like Orlando. Now places like New Orleans and Dallas may not be on par with Peoria or Carbondale as far as destinations go but we will suffer thru it ....If it happens, it will be announced either at the F4 or right after. The NCAA coaches conference is always at the F4 so betting something is announced Sunday or Tuesday.

My understanding is there will be no divisions. For basketball, it sounds like they try to give the top teams H/H with each other and then only play one game each against the bottom of the conference. Which, with how things look, that would mean ECU, USF and Tulane as probably the bottom 3.

Other sports would probably be similar.