Sounds like Wichita St to the AAC... Who gets an Invite?

[Cdizzle]

I'd say play with 9 for a year. Schedule multiple non-conf games with schools interested, both and home and on the road. See which programs stand out the most, fans show up, travel issues that are involved, etc.

Problem with this is that UNI might choose to not schedule those games.

[VU2014]

I'd say play with 9 for a year. Schedule multiple non-conf games with schools interested, both and home and on the road. See which programs stand out the most, fans show up, travel issues that are involved, etc.

Problem with this is that UNI might choose to not schedule those games.

Does UNI have a track record of not schedule any tough road opponents? Bad decision for them if they have any aspiration of ever getting an outright bid to the Tourney. The Selection Committee is biased as hell towards P6, so mids need to go the extra mile to play quality opponents on the road to strengthen their schedule because we won't get the benefit of the doubt from the Committee.

That was one of my points confusion with ISU's Dan Muller. Life is not fair MidMajors and many things like scheduling work against us. Muller wanted 1 away game for 1 road game but the P6 won't take those scheduling agreements. Its not fair but he cost his team but not schedule a tough road opponent this season. You can find good teams to play you at their place but they won't come to your place. You'll also get a ton of no's because teams know ISU is a good program but you could find opponents who will play you for a 1 game road game.

MVC should impose a certain standard of out of conference opponents to not hurt the conferences RPI. Don't allow teams to schedule absolute trash teams that they know is going to drag down the RPI and strength of schedule. If teams want to schedule a "tune-up" game or two then they can play good D2 programs to just shake out the rust and get the young players some experience in the system.

I'd say play with 9 for a year. Schedule multiple non-conf games with schools interested, both and home and on the road. See which programs stand out the most, fans show up, travel issues that are involved, etc.

Sort of doesn't make any sense to me. If Elgin and MVC HQ doesn't already know this information then they all deserve to be fired. I almost guarantee you they already have collected information on these topics. It doesn't take a genius to estimate travel costs and there is already track records of which basketball programs can compete. It would just be killing a year and potentially losing out on a future member.

[Drakey]

Should be pushing hard for Valpo and Belmont. I assume St. Louis is not interested, so I would shoot for Denver.

[musiccitybulldog]

I would be all in for Belmont or Valpo. Saw Valpo play several games a few years ago and they looked pretty tough. Don't know anything about Denver.

[BCPanther]

I'd say play with 9 for a year. Schedule multiple non-conf games with schools interested, both and home and on the road. See which programs stand out the most, fans show up, travel issues that are involved, etc.

Problem with this is that UNI might choose to not schedule those games.

Does UNI have a track record of not schedule any tough road opponents? Bad decision for them if they have any aspiration of ever getting an outright bid to the Tourney. The Selection Committee is biased as hell towards P6, so mids need to go the extra mile to play quality opponents on the road to strengthen their schedule because we won't get the benefit of the doubt from the Committee.

That was one of my points confusion with ISU's Dan Muller. Life is not fair MidMajors and many things like scheduling work against us. Muller wanted 1 away game for 1 road game but the P6 won't take those scheduling agreements. Its not fair but he cost his team but not schedule a tough road opponent this season. You can find good teams to play you at their place but they won't come to your place. You'll also get a ton of no's because teams know ISU is a good program but you could find opponents who will play you for a 1 game road game.

MVC should impose a certain standard of out of conference opponents to not hurt the conferences RPI. Don't allow teams to schedule absolute trash teams that they know is going to drag down the RPI and strength of schedule. If teams want to schedule a "tune-up" game or two then they can play good D2 programs to just shake out the rust and get the young players some experience in the system.

I'd say play with 9 for a year. Schedule multiple non-conf games with schools interested, both and home and on the road. See which programs stand out the most, fans show up, travel issues that are involved, etc.

Sort of doesn't make any sense to me. If Elgin and MVC HQ doesn't already know this information then they all deserve to be fired. I almost guarantee you they already have collected information on these topics. It doesn't take a genius to estimate travel costs and there is already track records of which basketball programs can compete. It would just be killing a year and potentially losing out on a future member.

LOL.

UNI played Carolina, Xavier Twice, Oklahoma, Arizona State, Iowa and others. Top 25 Non-Con SOS.

Next year we've already got @Carolina, Iowa State (N), Xavier in Cedar Falls and the Battle 4 Atlantis with Villanova, Purdue and Arizona. UNI is not one to schedule lightly, probably too aggressive sometimes.

What he's referring to is that we only had 29 regular season games this year. He wants to claim it was money and that's not what happened. ESPN changed the date of our game in Chapel Hill late. We were supposed to play there the Sunday of opening weekend, but ESPN moved it to the week of Christmas. We couldn't find anybody else open that weekend, other than a DIII and because our exempt tournament was way early this year the calendar just didn't work...

[TheAsianSensation]

Wait, was someone trying to argue that UNI doesn't schedule up?

lol

[AndShock]

If you want the closest thing to the next Gonzaga, Wichita State, etc turn it on ESPN and look at the crowd for a 3 PT and dunk contest. There is your Wichita State replacement.

[VU2014]

Sources: Wichita State is in talks to join the AAC as soon as 2017-18 (by @SIPeteThamel)

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... twitter_si

https://twitter.com/si_ncaabb/status/847639244545732611

PHOENIX – The American Athletic Conference is engaged in talks to add Wichita State, according to multiple sources. The conversations have advanced to where a timeline for potential membership has emerged, including the possibility of Wichita State playing in the AAC as soon as next season.

There’s strong mutual interest between both sides, and sources said that a final decision could be made within the next month or in as few as the next two weeks. Any decision would need to be approved by the American Athletic Conference’s presidents, but the mutual interest is strong enough where neither side sees any looming issues.

The biggest lingering detail remains when Wichita State would leave the Missouri Valley Conference to begin play in the AAC. Sources said there’s a strong chance that the Shockers could play in the AAC in the 2017-18 season, as both sides would prefer Wichita State avoiding playing a lame duck year in the Missouri Valley Conference.

Valley officials are prepared for the move, as one told Sports Illustrated on Thursday night: “We understand that this is in the works and that it’s a strong possibility.”

The incentive would likely be for the American to move quickly.

Wichita State returns virtually its entire team from last season, which finished 31-5 and took No. 2 Kentucky to the final seconds in the Round of 32. (Former walk-on John Robert Simon is the team’s lone scholarship senior).

The incentive for the AAC to act now comes down to NCAA units, which are worth nearly $1.6 million for every NCAA game that a team plays in. If Wichita State’s stout team makes a deep run next season, the potential haul of units—which are shared by the conference—would make an expedited timeline look wise. Regular season college basketball moves the needle so little for television that Wichita State’s ultimate value for the AAC would likely resonate more in earning NCAA units than in potential television dollars. (The AAC’s television deal expires in 2020).

Multiple sources pointed to Creighton’s exit from the Missouri Valley in 2013 as a potential blueprint for Wichita State to follow. Creighton announced it was leaving the league in March of 2013 and started play in the Big East later in the year. Wichita State’s decision to exit could come as early as April, which would mean a similar timeline. There’s no significant exit fee penalty for Wichita State to leave the league. (By leaving without giving the requisite 12 months notice, per Valley by-laws, Wichita State would forfeit a portion of its share of the annual conference revenue distribution).

When Creighton left in 2013, one Valley source pointed out that Wichita State officials fought hard against a hefty exit fee. That showed other schools in The Valley that the potential of Wichita State moving had always lingered in the minds of administrators there.

Wichita State would join the American as a non-football member. The league is currently an 11-member basketball conference, giving Wichita State a natural spot as the 12th team. The Shockers would join in other non-football sports as well, including the school’s perennially strong baseball program.

Wichita State has played in the Missouri Valley Conference since 1945. The lure for the school revolves around bolstering its basketball resume for the NCAA tournament selection committee, as Wichita State went 30-4 during the regular season and received just a No. 10 seed in the NCAA tournament. The Valley’s conference RPI ranked No. 12 nationally, while the AAC ranked No. 7. (Just two AAC teams made the NCAA tournament this season—Cincinnati and SMU—compared to four last season.)

The potential move appears mutually beneficial on paper. For Wichita State, it helps bolster their strength of schedule and national profile. For the AAC, it injects another program that’s immediately competitive nationally to increase its national competitiveness.

Two weeks ago, Missouri Valley Commissioner Doug Elgin expressed his worry over a potential move to Sports Illustrated: “It wouldn’t be a genuine response if I said we weren’t concerned,” Elgin said prior to the start of the NCAA tournament. “We want them to stay. Losing Creighton was a blow to the league. Losing Wichita State would be the same.”

[ShoxNAwe]

No farewell tour? Disappointing.

[Someone_Else]

Should be pushing hard for Valpo and Belmont. I assume St. Louis is not interested, so I would shoot for Denver.

I live on the front range and didn't even know DU had a D1 basketball team until they were discussed as a replacement for creighton. Hockey gets all the pub. Just because it's in a large city don't expect too much. It is smaller than metro state, ucd, and ccd just in Denver. Add to those issues, even larger followers of cu, csu, and the academy and you have the next Loyola.