So,why is the AAC talking about expanding their conference with Wichita.
But,our conference commissioner has been silent on what our conference
Would do if they left
Wufan wrote:
I see MSU and Loyola as improved. Not sure what to think about ISUr and UNI.
Aargh wrote:The Valley does not have a history of replacing departing members with quality replacements. For many years, adding teams that had recently upgraded to D1 from a lower level worked because the Valley was still strong enough that those schools received a huge boost by being invited to the Valley.
That ship has sailed. Adding Loyola continued the trend of adding weak programs to replace strong programs that left. Doing that for the past 40 years has caught up with the Valley. Now adding UMKC, or UNO, or SIU-E or Illinois-Chicago, or any of the directional Illinois schools is actually a possibility.
The Valley isn't in a position to attract the top schools from other conferences in the area. A poster on the Bradley board pretty much nailed what the Valley needs to become. Minimize expenses and get the smallest possible footprint to reduce travel costs. MSU to the Sun Belt is starting to sound like a great move for them.
Aargh wrote:The Valley does not have a history of replacing departing members with quality replacements. For many years, adding teams that had recently upgraded to D1 from a lower level worked because the Valley was still strong enough that those schools received a huge boost by being invited to the Valley.
That ship has sailed. Adding Loyola continued the trend of adding weak programs to replace strong programs that left. Doing that for the past 40 years has caught up with the Valley. Now adding UMKC, or UNO, or SIU-E or Illinois-Chicago, or any of the directional Illinois schools is actually a possibility.
The Valley isn't in a position to attract the top schools from other conferences in the area. A poster on the Bradley board pretty much nailed what the Valley needs to become. Minimize expenses and get the smallest possible footprint to reduce travel costs. MSU to the Sun Belt is starting to sound like a great move for them.
MidWestMidMajor wrote:I just read the interview with the AD from SDSU in today's Sioux Falls Argus Leader. Obviously a lot of AD "political speak". But it confirms to me that they really like where they are at conference-wise with the Summit and having the basketball tournament in their backyard.
I just don't see a Dakota team coming to the MVC.
If you are interested:
http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports ... /99764622/
glm38 wrote:BEARZ77 wrote:chitown fanatic wrote:As weak as the valley was this year, next year will be the weakest its ever been. UNI, ISU,Loyola and MSU all look to be taking steps backward next year. BU could crack top 3, mostly because the teams above them lose so much. Its WSU and nobody even close after that.
I will never be very bold as long as Lusk is the HC, but MSU does not look to be taking a step back. We have every starter back except Miller, but likely get Rousseau to replace him who is better anyway. We get Williams off a RS year and he was a top 100-150 recruit and also add Scurry who is different but perhaps comparable to Johnson. His stats coming out of juco are almost identical. My guess is we are picked no worse than 3rd or 4th, perhaps even second. Again, talent isn't everything when you have a less than mediocre coach, but MSU has some players.
Agree regarding our Bears. Even with Lusk at the helm we should be better. I liked Miller in some ways. He was a gutsy player. But honestly he shot us out of as many games as he helped us win. And he was a defensive liability.
I would think we would be picked second or third. But that's underachieving for this group of players IMO. And like you I'm not convinced Lusk won't find some way to screw that up and we finish at around 500 again.
unipanther99 wrote:MidWestMidMajor wrote:I just read the interview with the AD from SDSU in today's Sioux Falls Argus Leader. Obviously a lot of AD "political speak". But it confirms to me that they really like where they are at conference-wise with the Summit and having the basketball tournament in their backyard.
I just don't see a Dakota team coming to the MVC.
If you are interested:
http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports ... /99764622/
Interesting read, and it makes some sense from their perspective. For a school that has never earned an at-large bid, the location of the conference tournament is necessarily very important. We need a school (or schools) that strive to earn at-large bids.
municup14 wrote:So,why is the AAC talking about expanding their conference with Wichita.
But,our conference commissioner has been silent on what our conference
Would do if they left
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