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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby squirrel » March 27th, 2017, 9:15 am

Drakey wrote:Maybe Detroit too.


Detroit is (or should be) a non-starter, considering most were unsatisfied with Loyola.
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Postby Dean Wormer » March 27th, 2017, 9:38 am

uniftw wrote:
Redhawk wrote:
Drakey wrote:Milwaukee, Valpo, Denver and Belmont should be pursued based on these numbers. Maybe Detroit too. After WSU leaves and the schools that think they are Football powerhouses take off, this would leave a better conference.


If you think Drake would be better off with a conference that includes the likes of Milwaukee, Valpo and Detroit why not simply join the Horizon League?

Also pretty astonishing to see the privates spend that much more than the publics yet the publics have run the conference for damn near two decades


Creighton disagrees. They ran the conference and lured your coach.
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby Cdizzle » March 27th, 2017, 9:42 am

Dean Wormer wrote:Creighton disagrees. They ran the conference

I think this gets thrown around a little too often. Creighton had as many conference titles in their last 22 years in the league as WSU has in the last 4 years.
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby squirrel » March 27th, 2017, 9:46 am

Bradley had the money and influence to be a major voice in the league until, in their arrogance, they lost their way and traded in a basketball coach for a stock broker.
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby Dean Wormer » March 27th, 2017, 9:58 am

Cdizzle wrote:
Dean Wormer wrote:Creighton disagrees. They ran the conference

I think this gets thrown around a little too often. Creighton had as many conference titles in their last 22 years in the league as WSU has in the last 4 years.


I agree, and there is no question WSU has achieved far greater success than Creighton ever has. My point was it was silly to act like a private hasn't had a run in the last 20 years.

Like I said previously, you guys have outgrown the conference, and it's funny watching some of the remaining dwarfs scream that their midget hands are bigger than the others.
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby Redhawk » March 27th, 2017, 10:12 am

uniftw wrote:
Also pretty astonishing to see the privates spend that much more than the publics yet the publics have run the conference for damn near two decades


Especially now without Creighton in the Valley. The last 4 years since the Bluejays departed have been dominated by the Public's with at least 4 out of 5 of the tops teams in the MVC standings every season!
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby unipanther99 » March 27th, 2017, 10:12 am

Dean Wormer wrote:Creighton disagrees. They ran the conference and lured your coach.


That's a heck of a plan by Rassmussen. "Greg, go to Iowa State for four years of mediocrity. By then, Altman may take a power-5 job and not turn around and come back the next day. If that happens, we'll need you waiting in the wings."

:? :huh:
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby PurpleAcesFootball » March 27th, 2017, 10:15 am

Seeing these numbers completely frustrates me as an Aces fan. We did absolutely less with more in 2015-16 and this further proves it.

Those numbers are from the 2015-16 year, not the most recent season completed. So it was the DJ Balentine/ Edgijius/ Adam Wing/ Brzoja (who would have started for 9 other MVC teams) team that lost in St. Louis on Washpun's jumper.

Something to note - that was the year the team traveled to Los Angeles for the Wooden tournament. That was an amount that was much higher than usual. They usually budget that on a 2 year cycle, so this year the team went Nashville to save some $$.

The biggest pain is that the numbers also include the 4 "Purchased" home games with MEAC and SWAC teams. That was such a poor use of funds for scheduling purposes.

One other thing: the privates do not have to make salary data public. However, thanks to my friend Google, you can pull up non-profit organization tax returns and see their top 5 highest paid employees. Not necessarily apples-to-apples, but here are the numbers for the 2014-15 school years (the last year data is currently available.)

From the tax returns:
UE - Marty Simmons $245,293 in salary with $55,539 other reportable compensation
Bradley - Geno Ford $706,655 + $26,243
Drake - Giacolleti - $381,774 + $38,613
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby uniftw » March 27th, 2017, 10:48 am

Dean Wormer wrote:
Creighton disagrees. They ran the conference and lured your coach.

They hired a coach about to give fired from Iowa State and hadn't recruited a single player on UNI's roster

Creighton was also surrounded by public schools doing well. WSU, UNI, MSU, SIU. One time Bradley did well. One time Drake did well. Other than that?
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby BCPanther » March 27th, 2017, 10:55 am

unipanther99 wrote:
Dean Wormer wrote:Creighton disagrees. They ran the conference and lured your coach.


That's a heck of a plan by Rassmussen. "Greg, go to Iowa State for four years of mediocrity. By then, Altman may take a power-5 job and not turn around and come back the next day. If that happens, we'll need you waiting in the wings."

:? :huh:


You forgot the part where Oregon would have to get to their 12th choice after a gang-rape scandal and his daughter's husband taking a job in Portland.

But yeah, they totally poached Mac...
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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby uniftw » March 27th, 2017, 10:59 am

BCPanther wrote:
unipanther99 wrote:
Dean Wormer wrote:Creighton disagrees. They ran the conference and lured your coach.


That's a heck of a plan by Rassmussen. "Greg, go to Iowa State for four years of mediocrity. By then, Altman may take a power-5 job and not turn around and come back the next day. If that happens, we'll need you waiting in the wings."

:? :huh:


You forgot the part where Oregon would have to get to their 12th choice after a gang-rape scandal and his daughter's husband taking a job in Portland.

But yeah, they totally poached Mac...

Nothing like poaching a coach from a school 1,498 days after he was last employed by said school and had actually coached 4 games AGAINST said school....

Sure showed UNI who was boss on that one.


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Re: MVC Basketball Budgets

Postby BradleyFan71 » March 27th, 2017, 12:06 pm

PurpleAcesFootball wrote:Bradley - Geno Ford $706,655 + $26,243

What a complete waste!
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