We went from a season two years ago where first and second team players were all Seniors. Last year, was a major transition season, simply based on the quality of players the conference lost.
Sort of. Generally speaking, the league was in line with what it has been since Creighton left the league. http://kenpom.com/blog/2017-mvc-tournament-forecast/
BirdsEyeView wrote:Generally speaking, I hear you. But, you Shocker fans continue to act like the other schools don't want to get better....they do....they need to hire the right coach or avoid major transfers that killed their progress (Reggie Lynch, Marcus Marshall, Nic Moore, Jordan Caroline, Josh Cunningham).
Wishing to get better and doing something about it are 2 different things. If all the programs in this league were serious about getting better, Simmons and Lusk would not still be head coaches.
BirdsEyeView wrote:WSU hit a grand slam on their coach (2x) and now the fans act like they are the billy bad asses of the block. You did nothing, your AD/President did. It's not a magic formula.
I didn't pick the coaches, you're right about that. But implying that the fanbase did nothing is beyond ignorant. Illinois State just completed their best season in 20 years. And that led to average attendance of 300 more than WSU drew in the worst year in the depths of 90s futility. Demanding that the department strive for excellence, and backing it up with attendance and cash is a hell of a lot more than "nothing." Paying for season tickets, making scholarship donations, making donations to the new arena, all after 15+ years of terrible on-the-court product is more than nothing. It has a lot to do with why Marshall came here. And it has a WHOLE lot to do with why Marshall is still here.
There are a lot more people on this board that like to pretend WSU fans came in to existence in 2013 than there are WSU fans claiming they are the reason the program is where it is right now.
BirdsEyeView wrote:Everyone will get better. I guarantee you that.
On what timeline? Every single MVC team is going to magically improve over the next 3 seasons? 5 seasons? Half of this board likes to remind WSU fans that "everything goes in cycles, you'll be back on the bottom again soon." You're going with the guarantee that all the MVC teams are going to magically go on an up-cycle at the same time? After losing the 2 best programs in the league? That's a bold (to use a nice word) take.