Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby jackwagon » April 7th, 2017, 7:16 am

People are underestimating the impact that losing Wyatt Lohaus to an injury last season. That forced Spencer to have to play point, and he isn't a point. It forced Rhodes to play more minutes that he should've. It forced J-Mo to over extend his role. It was a domino affect that caused 4 freshman to get significant minutes.

UNI will be fine.[/quote]

The same Wyatt Lohaus that averaged 4.5 points a game and had 13 Turnovers to 2 assists the entire season before going down with injury. Color me unimpressed.
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby TheDrake » April 7th, 2017, 7:28 am

I actually don't think Drake finishes last next year. Barring anymore transfers we should have a team with 5-6 seniors and a coach who supposedly knows what he's doing. Is this the season that Drake avoids the play-in game???
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby BirdsEyeView » April 7th, 2017, 7:30 am

jackwagon wrote:
The same Wyatt Lohaus that averaged 4.5 points a game and had 13 Turnovers to 2 assists the entire season before going down with injury. Color me unimpressed.


Same thoughts here. Unless UNI has some stud redshirts and/or new Freshman or JuCo transfers coming in, I'm not sure they will be better next year.

Lohaus
Haldemann
McCloud
Carlson
Koch


That does not look like a contending lineup. Athletic teams like MSU, ISUr and Loyola will give them fits.
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby uniftw » April 7th, 2017, 9:08 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
jackwagon wrote:
The same Wyatt Lohaus that averaged 4.5 points a game and had 13 Turnovers to 2 assists the entire season before going down with injury. Color me unimpressed.


Same thoughts here. Unless UNI has some stud redshirts and/or new Freshman or JuCo transfers coming in, I'm not sure they will be better next year.

Lohaus
Haldemann
McCloud
Carlson
Koch


That does not look like a contending lineup. Athletic teams like MSU, ISUr and Loyola will give them fits.
Yeah, that line up we ran out with Eglseder, Koch, Koch, Moran, Dunham, Ali, O'Rear. Man, that was a super athletic team.

Let's not forget the amazing rotation of athletes named Freidman, Carlson, Jeserpson, Bohannon, Tuttle, Singleton, Buss, and Lohaus that got UNI that top 10 rankings 2 years ago.

Let's not forget the names that got UNI to 3 straight NCAAs in the mid 00s like Jacobson, McKowen, Stout, Viet, Haak, Coleman, Gruber, etc...

Clearly, UNI has always had amazing "athletes" that have carried our program and our issue now is we don't have that same level of pure athletic talent.
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby BirdsEyeView » April 7th, 2017, 9:09 am

uniftw wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
jackwagon wrote:
The same Wyatt Lohaus that averaged 4.5 points a game and had 13 Turnovers to 2 assists the entire season before going down with injury. Color me unimpressed.


Same thoughts here. Unless UNI has some stud redshirts and/or new Freshman or JuCo transfers coming in, I'm not sure they will be better next year.

Lohaus
Haldemann
McCloud
Carlson
Koch


That does not look like a contending lineup. Athletic teams like MSU, ISUr and Loyola will give them fits.
Yeah, that line up we ran out with Eglseder, Koch, Koch, Moran, Dunham, Ali, O'Rear. Man, that was a super athletic team.

Let's not forget the amazing rotation of athletes named Freidman, Carlson, Jeserpson, Bohannon, Tuttle, Singleton, Buss, and Lohaus that got UNI that top 10 rankings 2 years ago.

Let's not forget the names that got UNI to 3 straight NCAAs in the mid 00s like Jacobson, McKowen, Stout, Viet, Haak, Coleman, Gruber, etc...

Clearly, UNI has always had amazing "athletes" that have carried our program and our issue now is we don't have that same level of pure athletic talent.


Point taken.

For our sake, I hope that lineup above is good...without Shockers, we need you!
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby BirdsEyeView » April 11th, 2017, 8:24 am

The only MVC team in this list at #8...

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/4/1 ... nd-vermont


With Muller's recruitment of Copeland and Clarance. Plus, Yarbrough (A10 Freshman of Year) coming in after a year sitting out due to transfer....as long as McIntosh sticks around, ISUr has to be the favorite now.
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby Redhawk » April 11th, 2017, 8:41 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:The only MVC team in this list at #8...

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/4/1 ... nd-vermont


With Muller's recruitment of Copeland and Clarance. Plus, Yarbrough (A10 Freshman of Year) coming in after a year sitting out due to transfer....as long as McIntosh sticks around, ISUr has to be the favorite now.


:+1:

Interesting to note...no mention of Valpo, Belmont or Murray St.
Other potential Valley adds:
UTA - 6th
Oakland - 9th
NMSU - 18th
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby BCPanther » April 11th, 2017, 9:36 am

Redhawk wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:The only MVC team in this list at #8...

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/4/1 ... nd-vermont


With Muller's recruitment of Copeland and Clarance. Plus, Yarbrough (A10 Freshman of Year) coming in after a year sitting out due to transfer....as long as McIntosh sticks around, ISUr has to be the favorite now.


:+1:

Interesting to note...no mention of Valpo, Belmont or Murray St.
Other potential Valley adds:
UTA - 6th
Oakland - 9th
NMSU - 18th


NMSU just lost their coach to New Mexico. Going to hire their 4th coach in 14 months. Ouch.
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby Rogers101 » April 11th, 2017, 9:42 am

Redhawk wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:The only MVC team in this list at #8...

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/4/1 ... nd-vermont


With Muller's recruitment of Copeland and Clarance. Plus, Yarbrough (A10 Freshman of Year) coming in after a year sitting out due to transfer....as long as McIntosh sticks around, ISUr has to be the favorite now.


:+1:

Interesting to note...no mention of Valpo, Belmont or Murray St.
Other potential Valley adds:
UTA - 6th
Oakland - 9th
NMSU - 18th


I do like all 3 of the schools you listed. I'd be happy with them as well. New Mexico St just sticks out quite a bit.
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Re: Who Wins the MVC in 2017-18?

Postby 2livewu » April 12th, 2017, 2:48 pm

1. ISUr - culture started. No big changes. Superior athletes, superior defense. Role players last year are ready to step up, transfers are impact and recruiting is strong. Coaching is good enough. Double plus if they manage to keep MM.

2. Loyola - recruiting plus Custer and Richardson are substantially better than anything UNI can run out in Haldeman or Rhodes or Lohaus etc.

3. UNI - because of coaching, but they are going to get obliterated in the non-con. (Un)Fortunately, since at larges and RPI no longer matter to the Valley, getting uni'd doesn't matter anymore.

4. MSU - with this talent should contend for the title but won't, because of coaching.

5. Bradley - has some upside, could surprise.

6. SIU - Barry. I shall miss thee.

7. Indiana State - feel bad for the Trees.

8. Evansville - Getting Evansvilled doesn't matter anymore.

9. Drake - Hopefully improvement is on the way.
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