MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team league

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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby Bjhracer » April 24th, 2017, 4:30 pm

RacerJoeD wrote:This guys must know us...

We had a similar situation and got a 4 seed in the NIT. And we decided to leave a conference we helped found in 1948.


No kidding. We were in the top 25 nationally and got a 4 seed in the NIT. With zero help from the OVC brass to lobby for a better seed. If that doesn't say get out I don't. Know what does. We had to prove ourself on the floor by blowing out Tulsa on the road. By that point it was to late.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby Someone_Else » April 24th, 2017, 4:49 pm

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
squirrel wrote:Bingo, tribe!

The AAC priority phone tree over the next 10 years:

VCU
Dayton
Richmond
UMass
George Mason
Charlotte
UTSA
UAB
SLU
George Washington


The Big East priority phone tree over the next 10 years:

UConn
Dayton
Gonzaga
St. Mary's
VCU
Richmond
UMass
George Mason
SLU
St. Joseph's
LaSalle


That Big East wish list is laughable. This is not based on reality. The Big East is not even going to consider Gonzaga or St. Mary's. I doubt they consider any school except the SLU and Dayton because they are both Catholic schools just the like the rest of the Big East. However, UCONN and another non Catholic school is not out of the realm of possibility but it most definitely won't be anyone more western than their current most western member, Creighton, in Omaha. Travel would be such a hassle for Gonzaga I bet they wouldn't even accept the invitation. Even if they split into two divisions the western division would be Gonzaga, Creighton, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, and Xavier Creighton has already said their current travel situation isn't ideal being the most western member of the Big East. What do you think Gonzaga will think? They would have to fly 50-100% all the way across the country 8 times per season just for conference games.


Butler isn't Catholic, but is private.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby TOPSTRAIGHT » April 24th, 2017, 5:45 pm

I have followed BELMONT for a while now(and the OVC)---I have to agree if they don't come now they never will.Nothing wrong with eleven in a non-football league.The MVFC should go to twelve.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby Dawgbit » April 25th, 2017, 6:49 am

smidge34 wrote:Who needs a "magic cure all"? Murray been ranked in the top 25 and top 10 in two different seasons in the last 6 years. Just had a down year or two between losing our head coach to Iowa State and a sophomore PG to NBA. It was a perfect storm but don't count on that continuing. History says otherwise and our record vs MVC competition is solid the last decade. We are a good catch for the MVC and will do well.


How many times has Murray been in the Sweet Sixteen? Why has all of this excellence you speak of not translated into success in the Big Dance? Could it be because you play in a very weak conference, and your win/loss record is a reflection of such? How many times has Murray been to the Dance since Belmont joined the OVC? SIU is as bad as they have ever been and you have not even beaten them the last two years.

Prepare for a major dose of reality if you get in the MVC, even in it's current, emaciated state.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby Bjhracer » April 25th, 2017, 7:16 am

You sound like a Western fan..Lol. Its true the last tough years have been rough for the Racers. It is taking more time to develop our new coach than anticipated. As fir your dose of reality.. The reality is the OVC is a s*#t conference that gets terrible seeds, every tine you are UN the tourney chances are you are playing a top 10 team. Racer teams have been good, winning 3 times in the tourney and numerous 2-4 pt losses. The sweet 16 will come with better seeding and better chances with an MVC invite. Twice we came within a bucket of the sweet 16. Once to the eventual champion who easily went on to the title. And once to the runner up. Bad luck really. All due to the weakness of the OVC. If Murray State gets an invite you guys will be surprised to see us near the top of the conference standings each year.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby smidge34 » April 25th, 2017, 9:12 am

I'm not in for a "major dose of reality" lmao as I have watched us beat more MVC teams than we lost to in my 40+ years following Racer basketball. Reality my friend is we hold a winning record all time and the last decade versus your conference.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby squirrel » April 25th, 2017, 9:13 am

Peoria Journal Star's Dave Reynolds has tweeted Valley officials visited Murray Monday, are in Valparaiso today, and visits are scheduled for Milwaukee and Omaha.
https://twitter.com/DaveReynolds2/statu ... 0916816896
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby VU2014 » April 25th, 2017, 9:29 am

https://twitter.com/DaveReynolds2/statu ... 0916816896

"Sources have told me that Valley officials visited Murray State Monday, is at Valparaiso today and has visits set for Milwaukee and Omaha." - Dave Reynolds
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby VU2014 » April 25th, 2017, 9:31 am

Skip to (21:07) in the Podcast. Jon Rothstein is hearing that the MVC is still targeting Valpo and Murray State and from what he is hearing that VALPO is the MORE LIKELY of the 2.

https://soundcloud.com/compass-media/co ... ke-rhoades

Still sounds likely that the MVC will go 11 or 12, but Valpo seems like the 1st choice.

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/ ... 8866342912
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 7134067716
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » April 25th, 2017, 9:32 am

Dawgbit wrote:
smidge34 wrote:Who needs a "magic cure all"? Murray been ranked in the top 25 and top 10 in two different seasons in the last 6 years. Just had a down year or two between losing our head coach to Iowa State and a sophomore PG to NBA. It was a perfect storm but don't count on that continuing. History says otherwise and our record vs MVC competition is solid the last decade. We are a good catch for the MVC and will do well.


How many times has Murray been in the Sweet Sixteen? Why has all of this excellence you speak of not translated into success in the Big Dance? Could it be because you play in a very weak conference, and your win/loss record is a reflection of such? How many times has Murray been to the Dance since Belmont joined the OVC? SIU is as bad as they have ever been and you have not even beaten them the last two years.

Prepare for a major dose of reality if you get in the MVC, even in it's current, emaciated state.

You are a special snowflake.
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