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Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 16th, 2017, 10:35 am
by uniftw
Play Angry wrote:
uniftw wrote:Drake had someone to go Minnesota. Can't recall the name off the top of my head

Also had Kale that transferred in to them and then left on the grad transfer rule.


Joey King

Bingo.

Thankfully UNI's roster is so bad that we don't every worry about it.... :buddies:


On a serious not it is becoming an issue. I know there is some concern with one of the guys that UNI signed this year and this situation. He was under recruited in high school due to missing his junior year of high school with an ACL injury. By the end schools like Michigan State, Michigan, etc.. were starting to sniff around he contact him. He also seemed to love the attention of recruiting and having everyone want him.

If he gets to UNI and performs to his potential he could easily end up a grad transfer in a couple years, or just a straight transfer if he doesn't redshirt this year.

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 16th, 2017, 11:50 am
by Make MVC Great Again
Kids these days have no sense of dignity.

Why would you want to go to a school that wanted nothing to do with you out of high school, but than ball-out in college, and only then do they want you? Makes you look weak and superficial. Like a puppy wanting a treat.

Just me.

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 16th, 2017, 2:29 pm
by Rollbird5
Make MVC Great Again wrote:Kids these days have no sense of dignity.

Why would you want to go to a school that wanted nothing to do with you out of high school, but than ball-out in college, and only then do they want you? Makes you look weak and superficial. Like a puppy wanting a treat.

Just me.


Chance to play in ncaa tourney, get noticed more by scouts, play high profile opponents more often,

Wish loyalty to a program was how it used to be but this is just the world we live in, everyone is looking for the next best thing

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 16th, 2017, 3:30 pm
by ptownbraves
Make MVC Great Again wrote:Kids these days have no sense of dignity.

Why would you want to go to a school that wanted nothing to do with you out of high school, but than ball-out in college, and only then do they want you? Makes you look weak and superficial. Like a puppy wanting a treat.

Just me.


Don't blame the kids, blame the system that allows it. Where's the incentive to stay at a mid-major these days if you're a top player in your conference other than a sense of loyalty to your teammates and coaches? The P5 schools have a lot to offer. Better competition, better facilities, national recognition, potentially more exposure to NBA or pro teams overseas. They're just trying to improve their situation.

It's like being offered a big raise to go to a new company and do the same type of work.

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 17th, 2017, 8:26 am
by Mikovio
BuBrave2006 wrote:but aside from Sam Maniscalco from Bradley (Grad Transfer) and Rayvonte Rice from Drake (normal Transfer),

Maniscalco left because Les was fired. Cunningham is another (to Dayton), but again it's because we fired his coach. I don't think we've had a player "transfer up" except when we fired our coach. Even Danny Granger left because Les chased him out and his old assistant was texting him at New Mexico. Maybe it would start happening under the new grad transfer rule though, who knows. I can't blame anyone for leaving the Redturds though.

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 19th, 2017, 8:50 am
by UNIFanSince1983
ptownbraves wrote:
Make MVC Great Again wrote:Kids these days have no sense of dignity.

Why would you want to go to a school that wanted nothing to do with you out of high school, but than ball-out in college, and only then do they want you? Makes you look weak and superficial. Like a puppy wanting a treat.

Just me.


Don't blame the kids, blame the system that allows it. Where's the incentive to stay at a mid-major these days if you're a top player in your conference other than a sense of loyalty to your teammates and coaches? The P5 schools have a lot to offer. Better competition, better facilities, national recognition, potentially more exposure to NBA or pro teams overseas. They're just trying to improve their situation.

It's like being offered a big raise to go to a new company and do the same type of work.


I don't see the system as being the problem either though. If a kid wants to leave to try and improve himself then more power to them. Why shouldn't the kid have an option of doing this?

Anyone else around the program can leave at anytime they want for anywhere they want. Why limit what the player can do?

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 19th, 2017, 9:32 am
by uniftw
I think the issue with "the system" is that it is easily abused by larger conference/teams.

I saw a thing, yesterday, published by the NCAA that only 34% of basketball players who use the graduate exemption actually earn their masters degree. I'll see if I can find it back

That is a broken system.

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 19th, 2017, 11:28 am
by Old School MVC
But if that player uses his move to get more exposure to better his chances to play professionally (so be it probably over seas), it is the equivalent of a Masters to many other work fields. I hate it when the kids leave to go to a bigger P5 school, but I definitely understand, especially if they put in 4 years at their original school. I probably think the amount of Red Shirts will now diminish due to this rule. Why would schools want a quality kid redshirting if they will probably lose him after their senior year anyway.

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 19th, 2017, 4:18 pm
by RacerJoeD
That's hebfix then. If you take a graduate transfer and they don't graduate with a Masters, have that hurt the APR with no penalty to the team being left.

Re: MC Intosh

PostPosted: June 20th, 2017, 6:25 am
by uniftw
RacerJoeD wrote:That's hebfix then. If you take a graduate transfer and they don't graduate with a Masters, have that hurt the APR with no penalty to the team being left.

How can you let it affect APR though? If it's a two year, or more, MA program, APR can't/shouldn't be affected as long as the kid "stayed eligible/on pace" to get his MA. If he leaves and that is the case there is no APR hit. You can't start dinging programs that are meeting that criteria simply to try to fix a slightly broken rule