VUGrad1314 wrote:Let's be honest: a win like that, coupled with the bowl berth from their football team this year makes them very likely to catch the eye of the MWC if they can handle their business in WAC play this year. I've heard some rumors that the MWC is going to look to expand back toward and into Texas with NMSU UTEP and Rice possibly being considered. GCU fits in as a natural bridge between these schools and the conference's California members. The re-integration of BYU by the MW also appears to be under consideration which could set off moves by Gonzaga which could look to the MW AAC or BE or St Mary's if the MW is seeking multiple basketball only members. The WCC stuff beyond BYU is just speculation by me. St Mary's could very well be what Belmont has been for us: a school too good for its current league that is unable or unwilling to marshal the financial resources to move up while Gonzaga would take a BE or AAC invite and run I think. Furthermore, depending on how aggressive the MWC is to C-USA we could see multiple teams from the Sun Belt poached. This is where we could see the moves start to affect the MVC as the Sun Belt would be looking to teams from the Southland OVC and So-Con as well as maybe the CAA to replenish its ranks. It's all a matter of how much instability this realignment causes in the OVC as to whether or not Belmont would seek a new home. And I haven't even gotten to the potential shakeups in the Horizon Summit A-Sun and NEC. Harry Schroeder of valleyhoopsinsider tweeted this about MVC expansion:https://twitter.com/FatherHarry1/status/944371586148257798 He seems pretty plugged in regarding all things MVC. Wonder what he knows.
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:VUGrad1314 wrote:Let's be honest: a win like that, coupled with the bowl berth from their football team this year makes them very likely to catch the eye of the MWC if they can handle their business in WAC play this year. I've heard some rumors that the MWC is going to look to expand back toward and into Texas with NMSU UTEP and Rice possibly being considered. GCU fits in as a natural bridge between these schools and the conference's California members. The re-integration of BYU by the MW also appears to be under consideration which could set off moves by Gonzaga which could look to the MW AAC or BE or St Mary's if the MW is seeking multiple basketball only members. The WCC stuff beyond BYU is just speculation by me. St Mary's could very well be what Belmont has been for us: a school too good for its current league that is unable or unwilling to marshal the financial resources to move up while Gonzaga would take a BE or AAC invite and run I think. Furthermore, depending on how aggressive the MWC is to C-USA we could see multiple teams from the Sun Belt poached. This is where we could see the moves start to affect the MVC as the Sun Belt would be looking to teams from the Southland OVC and So-Con as well as maybe the CAA to replenish its ranks. It's all a matter of how much instability this realignment causes in the OVC as to whether or not Belmont would seek a new home. And I haven't even gotten to the potential shakeups in the Horizon Summit A-Sun and NEC. Harry Schroeder of valleyhoopsinsider tweeted this about MVC expansion:https://twitter.com/FatherHarry1/status/944371586148257798 He seems pretty plugged in regarding all things MVC. Wonder what he knows.
Lol, nmsu doesnt have a chance for the mwc
VUGrad1314 wrote:
They've got a better shot at being in the MWC than the MVC. Geography their rivalries and and FBS football There's no way they can be Missouri State's travel partner. Las Cruces, New Mexico is almost 1000 miles from Springfield, Missouri, a school with an administration reportedly reluctant to admit Murray State--a school 5.5 hours away -- by itself for travel reasons. I'm sure they're just all over the NMSU idea. Even with GCU as a partner it doesn't exactly lend itself to stability. This ship sailed when the Valley started really moving east, adding schools like Evansville Loyola and Valpo instead of trying to maintain their presence in Texas\Oklahoma. They needed to lay the necessary infrastructure for NMSU by giving them some semi-close conference mates. They haven't done that and I don't expect them to start with such a violent geographical swing to the West. I would be very surprised if we ever see the Valley expand south of Belmont\Oral Roberts or west of Tulsa.
VUGrad1314 wrote:All of those schools either had stronger athletics brands than NMSU or in the case of SJSU brought in a more valuable media market than Las Cruces. This isn't really the case anymore when you look at other potential additions. I would say that NMSU can compete in terms of brand strength with UTEP and Rice adds much more to travel costs than NMSU while being an arguably weaker ahletic brand though it does have the market. UTSA and North Texas don't have the track records and brands to compete with NMSU and going into Texas doesn't make sense without NMSU either. I believe that it's just a matter of time before NMSU receives MWC consideration.
VUGrad1314 wrote:All of those schools either had stronger athletics brands than NMSU or in the case of SJSU brought in a more valuable media market than Las Cruces. This isn't really the case anymore when you look at other potential additions. I would say that NMSU can compete in terms of brand strength with UTEP and Rice adds much more to travel costs than NMSU while being an arguably weaker ahletic brand though it does have the market. UTSA and North Texas don't have the track records and brands to compete with NMSU and going into Texas doesn't make sense without NMSU either. I believe that it's just a matter of time before NMSU receives MWC consideration.
https://www.mwcconnection.com/2016/5/6/11610398/what-is-the-perfect-mountain-west
There are no independent teams to add and the Mountain West has already said no to New Mexico State to join
NMSU isn't east.http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4311746&itype=CMSID
Thompson noted there are 26 Football Bowl Subdivision teams located west of Denver. Twelve play in the Pac 12, and 12 more play in the Mountain West. The other two are BYU and New Mexico State.
"If we're expanding," Thompson said, "we're going east."
https://247sports.com/college/new-mexic ... t-71515870
UTEP sucks. No new implications for us. We are broke (same). UTEP and UNMintentionally screws us every chance they get (same). We are stuck in the Sun Belt / WAC (same). Nothing changes for us.
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I don't think NMSU will ever be in the same conference as UNM or UTEP. If UTEP was to go to the MWC then the dominos will tumble affecting CUSA and the Sun Belt and that will impact NMSU.
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Expansion is all about Football. No other sport matters. So Simple Question. Please answer. What does NMSU bring to a conference???? A new member would have to bring Fans, TVs and Money!!!! All of which NMSU could and wouldnot bring. It clearly states in the article that a new member would have to bring almost $4 million every year to the conference in revenue. TV is out for NMSU cause New Mexico is considered UNMs when it comes to television footprint. That is a fact. What else do you bring? NMSU is having to mortgage it's life to pay the Sun Belt to be included. FCS is the best place for NMSU. Still can keep basketball D1. Again what would NMSU bring to a conference??????
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If the MWC were to add UTEP and Rice, then C-USA would only drop to 12 members; once UAB reinstates football. I don't see C-USA adding any new members. Furthermore, without UTEP to bridge the distance between other C-USA membersthere is no longer a need to add NMSU as UTEP's travel partner if C-USA were to expand. Without UTEP in C-USA, the next closest C-USA school would be UT San Antonio (over 500 miles away). That would leave NMSU with the same logistical problem they are trying to overcome in the Sun Belt to become a full member.
The only way conference expansion might help NMSU is if the Big 12 expands (to 12 members) and along with MWC expansion to create a domino effect that trickles down through the AAC which also effects C-USA such that C-USA drop below 12 members. Then C-USA would be forced to repopulate their ranks by adding Sun Belt schools. Then "maybe" NMSU would have an opportunity to join the Sun Belt as a full member out of necessity. But there would need to be desperation in Benson's eye for that to happen; like when he was desperate to rebuild the WAC by adding NMSU and Idaho after the massive exodus of schools to start up the MWC. If any of the SBC schools lost were Arkansas State and/or Louisiana Lafayette (two schools in favor of adding NMSU), then Benson could look East for school membership again (Eastern Kentucky, James Madison) further distancing the conference footprint from ever adding NMSU as a full member.
In a word: no.
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No
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Absolutely not
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Only if they replace SJSU
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NMSU would only be possibly decent add if SJSU was kicked out or schools left for AAC/P5. Until then...nope
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I see a lot of no's above. I'm going with hell no!
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Give me UTEP
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Tulane and North Texas are better adds than those 2.
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This is a dumb thread. No one is adding 2 shitty schools in shitty markets.
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Only if we lost Boise, San Diego St, Colorado St, Air Force, New Mexico and UNLV and we absolutely, positively had to get back to 8 to avoid going the way of the WAC.
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The Only way I see Idaho &/or NMSU added to the MWC is if the MWC loses at minimum 4 schools to P5 conferences.............that would leave the MWC at 8 and adding IU & NMSU wold get the MWC back to 10, and that would pretty much seal the fate of the MWC being a have not forever - At that point the MWC left behinds would just be trying to maintain FBS status and stay one spot ahead of the Big Sky Conference.
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NMSU needs for the B12 to fall apart to get an invite. In that scenario, 3-6 MWC teams join the teams left behind when Texas and Oklahoma and a few others go elsewhere.
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