uniftw wrote:I want nothing to do with ORU
ORU, with all those winning seasons, has just 3 all time NCAA appearances, going 1-3 and that was a 3 year run between 06-08 - which was a nice run, don't get me wrong.
Just one NIT bid
They never really dominated the Summit
GoldenEagle wrote:Has UNI ever made the Elite Eight? Have they ever even beat a P5 team?
GoldenEagle wrote:uniftw wrote:I want nothing to do with ORU
ORU, with all those winning seasons, has just 3 all time NCAA appearances, going 1-3 and that was a 3 year run between 06-08 - which was a nice run, don't get me wrong.
Just one NIT bid
They never really dominated the Summit
Has UNI ever made the Elite Eight? Have they ever even beat a P5 team?
GoldenEagle wrote:uniftw wrote:I want nothing to do with ORU
ORU, with all those winning seasons, has just 3 all time NCAA appearances, going 1-3 and that was a 3 year run between 06-08 - which was a nice run, don't get me wrong.
Just one NIT bid
They never really dominated the Summit
Has UNI ever made the Elite Eight? Have they ever even beat a P5 team?
mvfcfan wrote:Oral Roberts had 14 consecutive winning seasons from 2002-2015. Yeah their last two seasons haven't been great and they are going to have a new coach and probably be rebuilding for a couple of years, but they definitely have potential to be good in the MVC and to bring the conference up. I'd much rather have a team join the conference that has had a history of winning, rather than bring in a team that finished 4th in the Horizon League their first year of being D1 and got lucky that all the good teams lost in the first round of the HL tournament.
Oral Roberts is the obvious 12th team in my opinion (with Murray State being #11). Murray State has had a winning season 34 of the past 36 seasons, so anyone not wanting them clearly isn't using their head. And before anyone claims that ORU's and Murray State's success was because they played in poor conferences just let me say that 8 of the 10 teams last year in the MVC were Summit and OVC level. None of our schools are where they should be. It's best to bring in schools with winning traditions and actual fanbases that have the potential to bring the league up.
uniftw wrote:It looks like the end of the Scott Sutton era isn't going to end well.
Before Wilson became the ORU president in 2013, Sutton had a 14-season record of 278-177 with three Summit League Tournament titles and three NCAA Tournament appearances.
Since Wilson assumed leadership of the university — and, sources say, since he instituted recruiting policies that diminished the ORU basketball program’s horsepower — Sutton’s four-season record amounted to 58-70.
The 2016-17 Golden Eagles were 8-22 and failed to qualify for the conference tournament.
With Wilson as president, sources indicate, Sutton was instructed to recruit athletes who already were professed Christians and to evaluate prospects on their physical abilities, their intellect, their social history and whether they are spiritually alive.
Before Wilson, the ORU template seemed to center on the recruitment of solid student-athletes who might or might not already have been Christians. Those who weren’t became immersed in a Christian culture that resulted in numerous commitments to Jesus Christ.
Mikovio wrote:uniftw wrote:It looks like the end of the Scott Sutton era isn't going to end well.
You know that era ended right? Because the new president kneecapped him. No tattoos and religious tests are now imposed on recruits.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/o ... 77a3d.htmlBefore Wilson became the ORU president in 2013, Sutton had a 14-season record of 278-177 with three Summit League Tournament titles and three NCAA Tournament appearances.
Since Wilson assumed leadership of the university — and, sources say, since he instituted recruiting policies that diminished the ORU basketball program’s horsepower — Sutton’s four-season record amounted to 58-70.
The 2016-17 Golden Eagles were 8-22 and failed to qualify for the conference tournament.
With Wilson as president, sources indicate, Sutton was instructed to recruit athletes who already were professed Christians and to evaluate prospects on their physical abilities, their intellect, their social history and whether they are spiritually alive.
Before Wilson, the ORU template seemed to center on the recruitment of solid student-athletes who might or might not already have been Christians. Those who weren’t became immersed in a Christian culture that resulted in numerous commitments to Jesus Christ.
These are not the actions of an administration committed to winning basketball games.
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