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Postby Aargh » July 28th, 2017, 9:37 pm

Jerry Palm gives Illinois State the MVC's bid and gives them a 9 seed.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2017/07/michigan_basketball_could_face.html
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » July 28th, 2017, 10:34 pm

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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby Rambler63 » July 29th, 2017, 1:34 am

This is pretty much crap. The MVC and the Mountain West are both one bid conferences, only the MVC has their only bid as a 9 seed while the MWC has San Diego State as an 11? ISU would have to go 29-3 and win the MVC tournament to get a 9 seed with their schedule.

But that's a moot point, isn't it? Because Illinois State is probably going to be a third place team or worse in the MVC next year, since they only have one starter returning.
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » July 29th, 2017, 12:33 pm

Rambler63 wrote:This is pretty much crap. The MVC and the Mountain West are both one bid conferences, only the MVC has their only bid as a 9 seed while the MWC has San Diego State as an 11? ISU would have to go 29-3 and win the MVC tournament to get a 9 seed with their schedule.

But that's a moot point, isn't it? Because Illinois State is probably going to be a third place team or worse in the MVC next year, since they only have one starter returning.


Palm has no love for ISU or any other mid major. Surprised he has them at in the tourney let alone 9. I would expect he would rank any MVC team 14.
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby Make MVC Great Again » July 31st, 2017, 11:14 am

Rambler63 wrote:This is pretty much crap. The MVC and the Mountain West are both one bid conferences, only the MVC has their only bid as a 9 seed while the MWC has San Diego State as an 11? ISU would have to go 29-3 and win the MVC tournament to get a 9 seed with their schedule.

But that's a moot point, isn't it? Because Illinois State is probably going to be a third place team or worse in the MVC next year, since they only have one starter returning.


So pre-season projections are ok when Loyola is favored but not when any other school is favored?

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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby Blers » July 31st, 2017, 12:55 pm

....i think the post was more in response to the slapdash nature of the article specifically in reference to the MVC and MWC and how it doesn't make much sense logistically. But sure. Welcome back!

Though for what it's worth i'd be hesitant to write off Muller sneaking up and taking the bid this year if the team puts it together after non-con.
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby VUGrad1314 » July 31st, 2017, 1:34 pm

Illinois State's nonconference schedule is at-large quality.
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby AndShock » July 31st, 2017, 2:11 pm

If Muller can grab a bid this year I will be thoroughly impressed, even if it just by pulling off a run in St. Louis. I've never been impressed by him as a coach but it will be impossible to deny him praise in that scenario. On the other end of the spectrum, if Lusk can't grab a bid this year, it will be hard for SWOMO's prez and AD to come up with many more excuses. I have to admit I'll be cheering for SWOMO and SIU this year. I've always liked Valpo but I can't really see myself rooting for the new kid (I'm aware of the irony.)
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby BirdsEyeView » August 1st, 2017, 9:30 am

VUGrad1314 wrote:Illinois State's nonconference schedule is at-large quality.


Illinois State's roster is not.
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby Rollbird5 » August 1st, 2017, 10:55 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
VUGrad1314 wrote:Illinois State's nonconference schedule is at-large quality.


Illinois State's roster is not.


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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby Red » August 11th, 2017, 2:30 pm

NCAA is adopting TBT method of team advancing getting to update the bracket after each game. Love it.
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Re: NCAA Tourney Bracket Predictions

Postby BEARZ77 » August 11th, 2017, 4:12 pm

Red wrote:NCAA is adopting TBT method of team advancing getting to update the bracket after each game. Love it.

Depends on how they apply it; I can see it being used to make sure the teams they want to advance get the easiest draws, while a team that got no respect in initial seeding and wins a game or two doesn't get rewarded . Example say you're a #12 and win that first game against a #5; normally you'd get a similar game against a #4, but now they redo it and you're an #8 and get a #1 in the second round. Nice reward.

You have to keep in mind that these changes usually happen when power 5 teams want an advantage. I think this will be used to constantly be relegating mids to lower levels and tougher games as the tourney progresses. Mids start low usually 9's or lower, so after round 1 they'll be relegated to 7-8s and so on. They'll never get an easier draw no matter who they beat.
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