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Postby BirdsEyeView » August 7th, 2017, 8:26 am

In a selfish and a "how does this help ME" mentality world, this is a breath of fresh air from a coach truly growing into his role.

Although, it provides uncertainty for the ISUr basketball coaching staff (Yaklich was the lead assistant and recruiter), I think other coaches will jump at the opportunity to work for him after hearing about this.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/column ... 72ed2.html
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Postby valleyclimber » August 7th, 2017, 8:44 am

The action seems foolish on the surface, but I think ISU's Muller is one smart cookie and knows what he's doing.
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BEARZ77 » August 7th, 2017, 10:41 am

I simply don't see it as that big a deal. I'm sure there are those coaches who don't, but every coach I've ever talked to at our level says one of their goals is to help their assistants rise up thru the system and get lucrative opportunities. I would have no respect for one who didn't, so while I commend Muller for doing so, I would expect the same from any coach in the Valley. It's what they're supposed to do.
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BirdsEyeView » August 7th, 2017, 2:14 pm

How many of those head coaches are openly calling other schools offering up their assistants? Hardly any. Yes, they want their assistants to advance, typically as a head coach, not as another assistant. But, even so, I ask again, how many head coaches are openly calling another head coach telling them to take their own assistants away without being solicited first by the hiring head coach??
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BCPanther » August 7th, 2017, 2:48 pm

With all this coaching talent you'd think Illinois State would have made a tournament this millennium...
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BEARZ77 » August 7th, 2017, 3:01 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:How many of those head coaches are openly calling other schools offering up their assistants? Hardly any. Yes, they want their assistants to advance, typically as a head coach, not as another assistant. But, even so, I ask again, how many head coaches are openly calling another head coach telling them to take their own assistants away without being solicited first by the hiring head coach??


So you really believe that the story is that out of the blue one day Muller just decides to call and offer up his assistants to another coach? Well, ok I guess.
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BirdsEyeView » August 7th, 2017, 3:57 pm

BEARZ77 wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:How many of those head coaches are openly calling other schools offering up their assistants? Hardly any. Yes, they want their assistants to advance, typically as a head coach, not as another assistant. But, even so, I ask again, how many head coaches are openly calling another head coach telling them to take their own assistants away without being solicited first by the hiring head coach??


So you really believe that the story is that out of the blue one day Muller just decides to call and offer up his assistants to another coach? Well, ok I guess.


Quote from Beilein in article (https://www.maizenbrew.com/2017/8/4/160 ... -vacancies)

"First of all, I would like to thank Illinois State head coach Dan Muller for his professionalism throughout this entire search," Beilein said in a statement. "He reached out to us and recommended Luke and had nothing but great things to say about DeAndre. Losing two coaches is never easy, however, Dan encouraged both to pursue these openings with strong interest knowing it would help them reach their personal goals. He was first class in every way throughout the process."

I also listened to the interview this morning on the radio with Dan Muller asking how this happened:

Muller called Beilein out of the blue and left a message telling him he should interview Yaklich and Haynes (Dre) after Yaklich expressed his interest in high major job openings or head coaching positions at their year end meeting together.

Beilein texted him back rather than calling "not interested right now"

Belein calls Muller a week later and said he would now like to talk to them both

The rest is history...

So yes I do believe it.
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BirdsEyeView » August 7th, 2017, 3:58 pm

BCPanther wrote:With all this coaching talent you'd think Illinois State would have made a tournament this millennium...


Well he has only been the coach for 5 years, so millennium is a stretch.
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BEARZ77 » August 7th, 2017, 5:27 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:How many of those head coaches are openly calling other schools offering up their assistants? Hardly any. Yes, they want their assistants to advance, typically as a head coach, not as another assistant. But, even so, I ask again, how many head coaches are openly calling another head coach telling them to take their own assistants away without being solicited first by the hiring head coach??


So you really believe that the story is that out of the blue one day Muller just decides to call and offer up his assistants to another coach? Well, ok I guess.


Quote from Beilein in article (https://www.maizenbrew.com/2017/8/4/160 ... -vacancies)

"First of all, I would like to thank Illinois State head coach Dan Muller for his professionalism throughout this entire search," Beilein said in a statement. "He reached out to us and recommended Luke and had nothing but great things to say about DeAndre. Losing two coaches is never easy, however, Dan encouraged both to pursue these openings with strong interest knowing it would help them reach their personal goals. He was first class in every way throughout the process."

I also listened to the interview this morning on the radio with Dan Muller asking how this happened:

Muller called Beilein out of the blue and left a message telling him he should interview Yaklich and Haynes (Dre) after Yaklich expressed his interest in high major job openings or head coaching positions at their year end meeting together.

Beilein texted him back rather than calling "not interested right now"

Belein calls Muller a week later and said he would now like to talk to them both

The rest is history...

So yes I do believe it.


I guess we see this very differently because your above note states that Yaklich had already had conversations with Muller at years end about wanting to pursue High major openings. Muller simply acted on his already expressed interest. Again bravo for Muller, but his employee had already made his interest known. The contact with Belein was unsolicited by Belein, but the desire to have his boss help him make a jump had been expressed by Yaklich and Muller complied.
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby LanceShock » August 8th, 2017, 4:52 am

Just out of curiousity, did Haynes have any prior connection to Yaklich? I can understand Muller reaching out on behalf of Yaklich for four years of faithful service, but also recommending Haynes is a little baffling when he had only been at IlSU since May. In some ways, I'm not sure if Haynes had even been there long enough for Muller to be able to give a meaningful recommendation.

It is good to see Muller looking after the people working for him though. One of the best bosses I ever worked for tried to lead by the phrase "a leader's first responsibility is to those who follow him." (I believe the quote is originally from John Maxwell)
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BirdsEyeView » August 8th, 2017, 7:31 am

Yes, Yaklich had asked that if any opportunities to advance himself open up this summer that he help with recommendations, but I still find it very noble to cold call Beilein for him.

Typically how that works is Yaklich reaches out, then Muller backs him as a reference for the job. Not how it was done where Muller reached out blindly on his behalf. Beilein had no knowledge of Yaklich or Haynes prior to Muller making that phone call.

Generally speaking, not sure why the argument here Bearz. In a world where bosses won't willingly reach out to a "competitor" in their industry to offer up their best "employees" without being contacted first, this was a selfless act done by Dan Muller to help advance his coaches up the food chain of College Basketball Coaching. In the long term, this should help him attract more quality assistants to his staff...whether at ISUr or somewhere else down the road when he inevitably gets a bigger job offer.

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Haynes was only there a few months, Muller said he was outstanding at his job and recommended him too even though the players loved Haynes in his short time here.


I used to hate Dan Muller as a coach (he blocked me on Twitter his first year), but it's hard to look at what he has done over his 5 years and not like the direction he is taking our basketball program as he matures into his position, both with recruiting and player development. My only concern with him now is his inability to keep players around the program (too much turnover).
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Re: Dan Muller

Postby BEARZ77 » August 8th, 2017, 8:19 am

I'm not saying Muller didn't do a good and honorable thing; but the original posting try to make it like that Muller totally on his own went out and sought a better job for these guys and that his actions were rare in college basketball. The reality is that Yaklich had made it known he was wanting to move up, his boss became aware of an opportunity that was out there and made a referral call. All good stuff , I think where we differ is you think it's unusual where I don't. It's pretty normal for a "management level" position to have contacts and access to information that someone below them doesn't, and therefore if they know both of an opportunity and the expressed wish of the employee to be the initial go between, at least in my experience. In fact if I knew an employee was definitely looking, I'd want to be involved both to aid them but also so I knew if I needed to be looking at replacement asap. But hey, I respect you see Muller's actions as unique and rare and want to commend him.

And I guess I don't see ISU and Michigan as competitors; to me that's like I've got an employee working for me in Springfield in a position and he wants a better but similar job in Kansas City. I guess the argument can be made that recruiting targets could overlap some in this case, but probably not much.

But anyway, it's all good and kudos to Muller for doing the right thing. There's a quote in John Feinstein's book "The Legend's Club" from either Coach K or his first AD[ I don't remember which] about we should never get accolades for doing the right thing because it then becomes viewed as special when it's simply doing the right thing. But I think in today's world, you're probably right, the right thing is too often special, so we probably need to recognize it.
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