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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby Kip Dynamite » November 7th, 2017, 2:41 pm

VUFWAlum wrote:Vegas Stats & Information Network's Missouri Valley Conference Prediction:
1. Valparaiso
2. Missouri State
3. Northern Iowa
4. Illinois State
5. Loyola Chicago
6. Southern Illinois
7. Indiana State
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Drake
https://www.vsin.com/missouri-valley-topped-by-newcomer-valparaiso-missouri-state/



Written by a former Valpo staff writer. Yeah, that's real legit.
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby BradleyFan71 » November 7th, 2017, 7:24 pm

Old School MVC wrote:
VUFWAlum wrote:Vegas Stats & Information Network's Missouri Valley Conference Prediction:
1. Valparaiso
2. Missouri State
3. Northern Iowa
4. Illinois State
5. Loyola Chicago
6. Southern Illinois
7. Indiana State
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Drake
https://www.vsin.com/missouri-valley-topped-by-newcomer-valparaiso-missouri-state/


The Vegas Casino's must be teaming up with Allegiant Air out of Peoria to increase travel out there. Sounds like there are quite a few Peoria folks that will take a bet on that one!

The conference is pretty much up for grabs this season. I could see Bradley finishing ahead of any team in the conference at this point.

If we take two steps backwards in year three of a complete rebuild, with WSU gone, we may as well just give up on the entire program.
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby Hacksaw » November 8th, 2017, 12:06 pm

Sagarin ratings are out too:
86 UNI
87 MSU
93 ISUr
107 LUC
117 VU
136 SIU
169 UE
174 ISUb
199 BU
253 DU

Roll these into a quick monte carlo simulation and here is your pre-season MVC tourney seeding odds:
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » November 8th, 2017, 12:44 pm

ISUr 3. Bradley 9th. I can dig it
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby chitown fanatic » November 8th, 2017, 1:40 pm

I love Hacksaw, especially in February, but these are comical. If Evansville finishes ahead of Bradley, I'll buy Acedad's beer at Scottrade. theres just no way this is happening
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby ACECARD » November 8th, 2017, 4:01 pm

chitown fanatic wrote:I love Hacksaw, especially in February, but these are comical. If Evansville finishes ahead of Bradley, I'll buy Acedad's beer at Scottrade. theres just no way this is happening

Well with not one game having been played yet, I would have to agree with chitown. Nobody knows how good, or bad, the Aces will be, but I don't believe that the Aces will finish ahead of Bradley. I was more impressed with Bradley last year, than the Aces, and they have way more back than the Aces. Let's play some games, and then talk about who will finish above who.
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby Mikovio » November 8th, 2017, 6:53 pm

If Wardle drops from 6th to 9th in the standings after returning everybody of consequence, adding Childs and replacing Wichita on the schedule with Valpo, that means we're definitely cursed and instead of frisbee dog halftime shows we need witchdoctors to dance for us and replace t shirt cannons with super soaker toting priests spraying the crowd with holy water.
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby Hacksaw » November 8th, 2017, 7:52 pm

Without any conference games played, the model is barely anything more than a different way of presenting the ratings (in this case, Sagarin Predictor). Once we get a handful of conference games underway, the model starts to add some more value with conference records and tiebreakers coming into play. Honestly, I was just making sure switching out Wichita and adding in Valpo wasn't causing any errors in the calcs...and then because I had a test run complete, I figured I'd share, because why not?! Just trying to make sure I'm on my A-game come February! (Not saying I completely agree with the odds currently either, but without games played yet - who knows!)
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby Old School MVC » November 8th, 2017, 9:05 pm

THANK YOU Hacksaw for all the work you put into this. I ALWAYS enjoy studying the chart every February!
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby BradleyFan71 » November 9th, 2017, 9:50 am

Mikovio wrote:If Wardle drops from 6th to 9th in the standings after returning everybody of consequence, adding Childs and replacing Wichita on the schedule with Valpo, that means we're definitely cursed and instead of frisbee dog halftime shows we need witchdoctors to dance for us and replace t shirt cannons with super soaker toting priests spraying the crowd with holy water.

Especially if MSU goes from 6th to 2nd.
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby VUFWAlum » November 9th, 2017, 11:06 am

Kip Dynamite wrote:
VUFWAlum wrote:Vegas Stats & Information Network's Missouri Valley Conference Prediction:
1. Valparaiso
2. Missouri State
3. Northern Iowa
4. Illinois State
5. Loyola Chicago
6. Southern Illinois
7. Indiana State
8. Bradley
9. Evansville
10. Drake
https://www.vsin.com/missouri-valley-topped-by-newcomer-valparaiso-missouri-state/



Written by a former Valpo staff writer. Yeah, that's real legit.

Where the hell did you get that from... Closest this guy has ever gotten to Valpo is that he lived and went to school in Wisconsin. Greg Peterson LinkedIn Bio
Not even saying that I agree with this guy, just thought I would put this out there because VU isn't finishing 6th in this years iteration of the MVC.
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Re: Early MVC Predictions

Postby SalukiHoops » November 9th, 2017, 11:17 am

SIU already lost Marcus Bartley and Bol to injury until around the start of conference play. Fletcher a game-time decision for the season opener at Winthrop. Tough break for the boys from Southern.
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