Official 2017-18 MVCfans.com Prediction - 7th Place

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Who will finish in 7th place during the 2017-18 MVC men's basketball season?

Poll ended at October 8th, 2017, 5:08 am

Bradley
28
44%
Illinois State
7
11%
Loyola
1
2%
Missouri State
1
2%
Northern Iowa
3
5%
Southern Illinois
11
17%
Valparaiso
13
20%
 
Total votes : 64

Re: Official 2017-18 MVCfans.com Prediction - 7th Place

Postby AndShock » October 5th, 2017, 4:27 pm

This is the spot that whoever gets it will be extremely displeased. I went with SIU.
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Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » October 5th, 2017, 4:49 pm

AndShock wrote:This is the spot that whoever gets it will be extremely displeased. I went with SIU.


I think SIU is very underrafed. I actually think southern finishes third. Loyola fourth.
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Re: Official 2017-18 MVCfans.com Prediction - 7th Place

Postby BEARZ77 » October 5th, 2017, 5:31 pm

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
AndShock wrote:This is the spot that whoever gets it will be extremely displeased. I went with SIU.


I think SIU is very underrafed. I actually think southern finishes third. Loyola fourth.


I agree, I think I'll have them in my top 4 ; no offense, but I like their roster better than both UNI and Illinois State and Barry is a more accomplished coach than many, although not Jake or probably Muller. His team will be dangerous I think. I'm still sorting thru the order for my top 5.
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Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » October 5th, 2017, 5:54 pm

BEARZ77 wrote:
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
AndShock wrote:This is the spot that whoever gets it will be extremely displeased. I went with SIU.


I think SIU is very underrafed. I actually think southern finishes third. Loyola fourth.


I agree, I think I'll have them in my top 4 ; no offense, but I like their roster better than both UNI and Illinois State and Barry is a more accomplished coach than many, although not Jake or probably Muller. His team will be dangerous I think. I'm still sorting thru the order for my top 5.


I was very impressed by Bol and Lloyd last season. Although I'm pretty sure Lloyd is at least 35. This season you add a 6'10 JUCO transfer. Looking pretty dangerous.
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Postby BEARZ77 » October 5th, 2017, 8:19 pm

Plus Fletcher, the return of Smithpeters, a quality juco point guard from Panola, and a number of experienced role players. It's a solid roster for Barry.
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Re: Official 2017-18 MVCfans.com Prediction - 7th Place

Postby Blers » October 6th, 2017, 1:05 am

Southern scares me as a real boom or bust team. I also agree whoever gets 7 is gonna be maaaaaad; and probably better than 7 seeds from the past few years. I went Bradley only because they have the most to prove at this point(for me). I know Valpo lost Peters but word from fans is they got a lot of talent coming off redshirt seasons, Really a toss up tho. Tough call.
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Postby vu72 » October 6th, 2017, 5:31 am

Valpo is picked 3rd or 4th by the pre-season magazines, not 7th. We have a lot of question marks due to all the new guys but, we do have Tevonn Walker, picked by said magazines as a first team all conference player and gain two guys who had to sit last year due to transfers from Power 5 schools. First is Joe Burton, ranked 59th by ESPN in his class, from Oklahoma State. He had offers from Kansas, Oklahoma, Oregon and others. The next is Bakari Evelyn from Nebraska. All I know about him is that our starting point guard from last year, Lexus Williams, decided to play his final year at Boise State. Handwriting on the wall? We'll see. Finally, our two seven footers are no longer freshman. I think by the end of the year no one will want to play Valpo.
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Postby mvfcfan » October 6th, 2017, 6:10 am

Valparaiso is actually my pick to win the MVC this year.

I watched a lot of MVC games last year and the only two teams in our conference that were any good were Wichita State and Illinois State (and ILST was only capable of playing good in 1 half). Everyone else was awful, so I'm not really sure why some of you think that Valpo is going to finish 7th. This isn't like Loyola where they had won 1 game in conference play the previous season. Valparaiso is actually a compete right away add, which is why we went after them. At the very least I'm expecting top 3 from the Crusaders.
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Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » October 6th, 2017, 7:17 am

mvfcfan wrote:Valparaiso is actually a compete right away add, which is why we went after them. At the very least I'm expecting top 3 from the Crusaders.


I don't agree with this at all. You lost your best player. Moving to a tougher conference. And, recruits aren't a sure thing. You hope they're good but we have no idea. Loyola, MSU, and Southern all have good teams coming back. ISU and UNI are in the midst of things every year despite whatever they may go though because they have great coaching. Maybe they aren't top tier but they're not going to be near the bottom, either. Bradley showed some promise last season but they were so far away I think its still another year, but who knows. That's why I have Valpo finishing in a fight for 6th or 7th. I could see as high as fourth. But, winning the conference? You're just being a homer.
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Re: Official 2017-18 MVCfans.com Prediction - 7th Place

Postby pafan » October 6th, 2017, 7:18 am

vu72 wrote:Valpo is picked 3rd or 4th by the pre-season magazines, not 7th.


Which magazines have already published a pre-season MVC straw poll? I would have guessed any of these would be in a November issue, behind a WWWWindians World Series cover.

I voted for SIU here 7th. I see them as a near-.500 team...
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Re: Official 2017-18 MVCfans.com Prediction - 7th Place

Postby BEARZ77 » October 6th, 2017, 8:41 am

I don't put a lot of stock in preseason mags ; anyone who has a little knowledge can pick the obvious top level teams. My experience is that while fan bases tend to be homers, many of them also are more informed on roster additions/deletions, know who the players they saw last year who were under the radar for other teams etc. etc, . I think a good part of the info even our own local radio and media guys get comes from browsing team and conference fan boards; I know we usually know things well before they do.

That said I've only browsed one mag this year so far, it was Athlon, and it had MSU first UNI,LOC,ISUr,Valpo, SIU,BU, ISUb,UE,DU. For whatever that's worth, probably not much. So many things can happen yet; for example MSU had a significant scare the past week as Alize sprained his MCL. Doesn't look major, but he will be held out of much activity at least about 4 weeks. This time last year he wasn't even a blip on most MVC teams radar, just a solid juco add for MSU. I'm sure there are guys on rosters most of us have no inkling how well they might be playing and who will alter the landscape significantly. Polls are fun, and I like to hear various fan bases defend why they think they're right/wrong, but in the end, it's all conjecture till we play games.
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Re: Official 2017-18 MVCfans.com Prediction - 7th Place

Postby vu72 » October 6th, 2017, 8:43 am

pafan wrote:
vu72 wrote:Valpo is picked 3rd or 4th by the pre-season magazines, not 7th.


Which magazines have already published a pre-season MVC straw poll? I would have guessed any of these would be in a November issue, behind a WWWWindians World Series cover.

I voted for SIU here 7th. I see them as a near-.500 team...


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