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bbtds wrote:

bleach wrote:

VUFWAlum wrote:Kind of surprised, but maybe I shouldn't be because fans always are biased toward their league, that the majority here think VU, which has been at least co-champion of the Horizon League 5 out of the last 6 years and winners of their last 5 games against MVC teams, will be worse than 5 other MVC teams this season. Is the MVC without Wichita State really that much better than the HL? I know you don't know us and we don't know you. I know this is a young team... but perhaps our most athletic team. 4th or 3rd maybe, but I have a hard time seeing 6th.

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Kind of surprised Valpo would move to a league that without WSU isn't really that much better than the Horizon.

FWAlum didn't say that the MVC wasn't that much better than the HL. He said Valpo finished as co-champs 5 out of the last 6 years in the HL and he found it hard to believe that with a record as good that Valpo would finish 6th in the MVC. If FWAlum really believed that the MVC was not much better than the HL then wouldn't he predict Valpo would finish 1st or 2nd every year for the next few years. He didn't do that. He said 3rd or 4th but not falling to 6th. He said the leagues are not as far apart for a team like Valpo that finished at least tied for first the last 5 of 6 years to fall to 6th in the MVC. I believe that all Valpo fans think it's a big move up from the HL to the MVC. We are all glad to be in the MVC with tougher competition from top to bottom. Because the HL overall was poorer in quality and had more bottom teams doesn't mean that Valpo will finish 6th in the MVC.

Didn't Wichita State finish 1st almost every year in the MVC? Will Wichita State finish 6th in the AAC because they are moving up to a conference with stiffer competition than the MVC? Will the Shockers finish below 5 other teams in the AAC? Temple? East Carolina? Tulane? South Florida? Tulsa? Connecticut? Memphis? Possibly UCF or Houston but I doubt they will finish better than WSU. That only leaves SMU and Cincinnati. They finished 1st and 2nd in the AAC.

bbtds wrote:

bleach wrote:

VUFWAlum wrote:Kind of surprised, but maybe I shouldn't be because fans always are biased toward their league, that the majority here think VU, which has been at least co-champion of the Horizon League 5 out of the last 6 years and winners of their last 5 games against MVC teams, will be worse than 5 other MVC teams this season. Is the MVC without Wichita State really that much better than the HL? I know you don't know us and we don't know you. I know this is a young team... but perhaps our most athletic team. 4th or 3rd maybe, but I have a hard time seeing 6th.

Here's to getting to know you better

Kind of surprised Valpo would move to a league that without WSU isn't really that much better than the Horizon.

FWAlum didn't say that the MVC wasn't that much better than the HL. He said Valpo finished as co-champs 5 out of the last 6 years in the HL and he found it hard to believe that with a record as good that Valpo would finish 6th in the MVC. If FWAlum really believed that the MVC was not much better than the HL then wouldn't he predict Valpo would finish 1st or 2nd every year for the next few years. He didn't do that. He said 3rd or 4th but not falling to 6th. He said the leagues are not as far apart for a team like Valpo that finished at least tied for first the last 5 of 6 years to fall to 6th in the MVC. I believe that all Valpo fans think it's a big move up from the HL to the MVC. We are all glad to be in the MVC with tougher competition from top to bottom. Because the HL overall was poorer in quality and had more bottom teams doesn't mean that Valpo will finish 6th in the MVC.

Didn't Wichita State finish 1st almost every year in the MVC? Will Wichita State finish 6th in the AAC because they are moving up to a conference with stiffer competition than the MVC? Will the Shockers finish below 5 other teams in the AAC? Temple? East Carolina? Tulane? South Florida? Tulsa? Connecticut? Memphis? Possibly UCF or Houston but I doubt they will finish better than WSU. That only leaves SMU and Cincinnati. They finished 1st and 2nd in the AAC.

bbtds wrote:I did over react but that game really got me irritated. If not for those refs Valpo would have had a big come back win. Ask many Valpo fans which game they think it was obvious that they lost due to the refs #1 will be the NCAA tournament game against Maryland in Columbus, OH in 2016 (first round), #2 would be the last game against Evansville in 2013 for two reasons. Because it was Alec Peter's first breakout game scoring wise and the fact we lost the game anyway because of the officials.