KenPom Ratings 2018

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KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby ptownbraves » October 23rd, 2017, 5:36 pm

The KenPom ratings for 2018 were just released. Here's where MVC schools ranked:

    87 - ISUr
    93 - Loyola
    99 - MoSt
    129 - UNI
    131 - Valpo
    133 - Bradley
    148 - SIU
    160 - Evansville
    203 - ISUb
    223 - Drake

Bradley had the biggest jump of 84 spots compared to the end of last season. I'm a bit surprised that we have 8 teams in the top 160. If this is any indication of how the season goes, we're in for some competitive basketball where most any team can win on a given night.
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby underdawg » October 24th, 2017, 8:30 am

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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby BirdsEyeView » October 24th, 2017, 8:39 am

ptownbraves wrote:The KenPom ratings for 2018 were just released. Here's where MVC schools ranked:

    87 - ISUr
    93 - Loyola
    99 - MoSt
    129 - UNI
    131 - Valpo
    133 - Bradley
    148 - SIU
    160 - Evansville
    203 - ISUb
    223 - Drake

Bradley had the biggest jump of 84 spots compared to the end of last season. I'm a bit surprised that we have 8 teams in the top 160. If this is any indication of how the season goes, we're in for some competitive basketball where most any team can win on a given night.


We are too high considering our injuries and Romine being away for personal reasons. I wonder if that takes injuries into account???
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby SalukiHoops » October 24th, 2017, 10:43 am

Illinois St at the top???? surprising...
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby Rogers101 » October 24th, 2017, 10:48 am

Compared to T-Rank

1. Loyola 77
2. Missouri St 90
3. Illinois St 104
4. Bradley 117
5. UNI 126
6. Valpo 127
7. Southern Ill 155
8. Evansville 172
9. Indiana St 189
10. Drake 207


Try and get 4 teams in top 100 and no teams over 200... That would be progress.
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby Blers » October 24th, 2017, 11:43 am

If i recall correctly KenPom takes last seasons performance into account and isn't truly representative of the 17-18 season until 6 or 7 game in. At least I think?

That would probably explain Illinois State being at the top (not that I think they can't contend this year).
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby BCPanther » October 24th, 2017, 12:51 pm

Blers wrote:If i recall correctly KenPom takes last seasons performance into account and isn't truly representative of the 17-18 season until 6 or 7 game in. At least I think?

That would probably explain Illinois State being at the top (not that I think they can't contend this year).


Correct.

His model doesn't fully wash out last season until your 8th game against DI competition. KenPom, like most data based models, isn't really very reliable until January 1.
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby Redhawk » October 24th, 2017, 1:49 pm

BCPanther wrote:
Blers wrote:If i recall correctly KenPom takes last seasons performance into account and isn't truly representative of the 17-18 season until 6 or 7 game in. At least I think?

That would probably explain Illinois State being at the top (not that I think they can't contend this year).


Correct.

His model doesn't fully wash out last season until your 8th game against DI competition. KenPom, like most data based models, isn't really very reliable until January 1.


ISUr under Dan Muller isn't really very reliable until January 1 either!
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby Mikovio » October 25th, 2017, 7:26 am

You mean Bart Torvik's T-Ranks? I think you posted the composite T-Rank/Kenpom, meaning the T-rank combined with Kenpom. Here's the pure T-rank.

http://www.barttorvik.com/trankpure18.php

1. Loyola 64
2. Missouri St 82
3. Bradley 100
4. Illinois St 116
5. Valpo 119
6. UNI 122
7. Southern Ill 161
8. Indiana St 174
9. Evansville 183
10. Drake 191


Even more generous to the Valley and Bradley in particular.
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Re: KenPom Ratings 2018

Postby ahunte1 » October 26th, 2017, 8:38 am

Looks like I have a new favorite computer rating system :o
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