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Re: MVC ranking

Postby underdawg » December 4th, 2017, 3:39 pm

Just for rankers--Thik Bol for SIU will be out 2-3 more weeks--doesn't look good for one of top shot blockers last year--now Pippen is, so if we had him and Bol--well :Violin:

Anyway our 6-5 starting PG Marcus Bartley will probably return for the Wednesday game with SLU so that might help us bolster the backcourt
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Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » December 4th, 2017, 6:06 pm

underdawg wrote:Just for rankers--Thik Bol for SIU will be out 2-3 more weeks--doesn't look good for one of top shot blockers last year--now Pippen is, so if we had him and Bol--well :Violin:

Anyway our 6-5 starting PG Marcus Bartley will probably return for the Wednesday game with SLU so that might help us bolster the backcourt



Bol should just sit out and get and play his senior season next year. They'd be my second pick next season behind another senior heavy team in isur.
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby Rambler63 » December 6th, 2017, 11:51 am

Not all non-con games are equal, but here's how the MVC has fared in non-con games the past several years:

2017-18 48 - 22 0.6857
2016-17 59 - 53 0.5268
2015-16 58 - 58 0.5000
2014-15 63 - 48 0.5676
2013-14 64 - 49 0.5664
2012-13 75 - 45 0.6250
2011-12 71 - 44 0.6174
2010-11 68 - 48 0.5862
2009-10 79 - 35 0.6930

When Creighton left the league, they were buying a lot of games on their non-con schedule, so they loaded up on home games against mid-level competition. In Creighton's last year in the MVC, of their 12 non-con games 8 were home, 2 were neutral, and only 2 were on the road. That's the kind of scheduling power you have when you draw 15k+ every game. From 15-17 you had Drake and Bradley both going through coaching turnover and ensuing rebuilds. Now that the coaching issues have resolved and Loyola is the team the league thought it would become, the MVC is looking pretty good.
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby RacerJoeD » December 6th, 2017, 7:23 pm

This is a vast oversimplification but...
The key is to win games versus good teams. Home games are easier than road games. So getting good home games and winnable road games helps.
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby Rambler63 » December 7th, 2017, 8:44 pm

Wow.... The A-10 is now under .500 in non-con games this season. 57-59 as of tonight...
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby GoAcesgo » December 11th, 2017, 11:43 am

View Power Ratings View Real Time RPIs Gamer Predictions
RPI Rk Missouri Valley Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
16 Northern Iowa 0-0 6-2 0.6442 14 0.6145
72 Valparaiso 0-0 6-2 0.5637 215 0.4808
88 Evansville 0-0 7-2 0.5554 208 0.4833
93 Illinois St. 0-0 3-6 0.5533 5 0.6320
101 Loyola Chicago 0-0 9-1 0.5493 312 0.4229
120 Missouri St. 0-0 8-3 0.5357 229 0.4753
133 Bradley 0-0 6-2 0.5235 271 0.4535
212 Indiana St. 0-0 2-5 0.4701 104 0.5315
217 Drake 0-0 4-4 0.4678 277 0.4460
238 Southern Ill. 0-0 3-4 0.4548 260
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby DUBulldog » December 11th, 2017, 11:48 am

GoAcesgo wrote:View Power Ratings View Real Time RPIs Gamer Predictions
RPI Rk Missouri Valley Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
16 Northern Iowa 0-0 6-2 0.6442 14 0.6145
72 Valparaiso 0-0 6-2 0.5637 215 0.4808
88 Evansville 0-0 7-2 0.5554 208 0.4833
93 Illinois St. 0-0 3-6 0.5533 5 0.6320
101 Loyola Chicago 0-0 9-1 0.5493 312 0.4229
120 Missouri St. 0-0 8-3 0.5357 229 0.4753
133 Bradley 0-0 6-2 0.5235 271 0.4535
212 Indiana St. 0-0 2-5 0.4701 104 0.5315
217 Drake 0-0 4-4 0.4678 277 0.4460
238 Southern Ill. 0-0 3-4 0.4548 260


Can you at least tell us where those rankings are from? Thanks.
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby GoAcesgo » December 11th, 2017, 11:54 am

DUBulldog wrote:
GoAcesgo wrote:View Power Ratings View Real Time RPIs Gamer Predictions
RPI Rk Missouri Valley Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
16 Northern Iowa 0-0 6-2 0.6442 14 0.6145
72 Valparaiso 0-0 6-2 0.5637 215 0.4808
88 Evansville 0-0 7-2 0.5554 208 0.4833
93 Illinois St. 0-0 3-6 0.5533 5 0.6320
101 Loyola Chicago 0-0 9-1 0.5493 312 0.4229
120 Missouri St. 0-0 8-3 0.5357 229 0.4753
133 Bradley 0-0 6-2 0.5235 271 0.4535
212 Indiana St. 0-0 2-5 0.4701 104 0.5315
217 Drake 0-0 4-4 0.4678 277 0.4460
238 Southern Ill. 0-0 3-4 0.4548 260


Can you at least tell us where those rankings are from? Thanks.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball ... etball-rpi
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby PurpleAcesFootball » December 11th, 2017, 2:43 pm

GoAcesgo wrote:View Power Ratings View Real Time RPIs Gamer Predictions
RPI Rk Missouri Valley Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
16 Northern Iowa 0-0 6-2 0.6442 14 0.6145
72 Valparaiso 0-0 6-2 0.5637 215 0.4808
88 Evansville 0-0 7-2 0.5554 208 0.4833
93 Illinois St. 0-0 3-6 0.5533 5 0.6320
101 Loyola Chicago 0-0 9-1 0.5493 312 0.4229
120 Missouri St. 0-0 8-3 0.5357 229 0.4753
133 Bradley 0-0 6-2 0.5235 271 0.4535
212 Indiana St. 0-0 2-5 0.4701 104 0.5315
217 Drake 0-0 4-4 0.4678 277 0.4460
238 Southern Ill. 0-0 3-4 0.4548 260


Yikes. No wonder Wichita and Creighton left. Only 3 teams have SOS lower than 200. That means 7 teams fall into the bottom 3rd of D1 programs.

I guess the conference is fine being a single bid low major for the time being.
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby mvfcfan » December 14th, 2017, 8:01 pm

Loyola in as a 12 seed. Northern Iowa listed as the first team out.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby AndShock » December 14th, 2017, 8:46 pm

Will be interesting to see if UNI ends up with any Q1 games in conference play. Loyola, Missouri State, and Valpo are all right on that line. UNI definitely isn’t getting an at-large with only 1 Q1 win. I feel like the selection committee is gonna emphasize the hell out of those.
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Re: MVC ranking

Postby LanceShock » December 14th, 2017, 10:12 pm

Right now, rpiforecast.com has Valparaiso and Loyola-Chicago finishing with expected rpis of 66.3 and 67.1 and Missouri State at 75.1. If they stay there or better, that would mean two and possible three road games that would be quadrant 1 for UNI. UNI currently is listed at an expected rpi of 34.2. If that were to get to 30 or better, that would mean all games against UNI would be quadrant 1 games.

It is still early enough that those expected rpis will still float some.
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