MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby SalukiHoops » December 19th, 2017, 2:18 pm

jackwagon wrote:Any person who is more impressed with Evansville's​, Bradley's, Valpo's, and hell to a lesser degree Loyola's pristine records compared to say Illinois state is crazy. In 2 months as we discuss the "surprises" of the valley season I will be sitting back and laughing. Not all non conference schedules are created equal.


ISUr has had some impressive performances so far. If only they could of avoided that home loss to Murray.
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby Dansen » December 19th, 2017, 4:40 pm

SalukiHoops wrote:ISUr has had some impressive performances so far. If only they could of avoided that home loss to Murray.


Not as bad as that home loss to Charleston Southern (Kenpom #301, RPI 300)
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 19th, 2017, 5:09 pm

Dansen wrote:
SalukiHoops wrote:ISUr has had some impressive performances so far. If only they could of avoided that home loss to Murray.


Not as bad as that home loss to Charleston Southern (Kenpom #301, RPI 300)


Phil Fayne was at a funeral against Murray (left with 7 scholarship players to play)

Milik Yarbrough was benched against Charleston Southern (again left with 7 scholarship players to play).


We were never getting an at large with 8 scholarship athletes for our entire non-conference slate. These losses mean very little. It was all about the Arch for ISUr.
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby BradleyFan71 » December 19th, 2017, 6:11 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:
Dansen wrote:
SalukiHoops wrote:ISUr has had some impressive performances so far. If only they could of avoided that home loss to Murray.


Not as bad as that home loss to Charleston Southern (Kenpom #301, RPI 300)


Phil Fayne was at a funeral against Murray (left with 7 scholarship players to play)

Milik Yarbrough was benched against Charleston Southern (again left with 7 scholarship players to play).


We were never getting an at large with 8 scholarship athletes for our entire non-conference slate. These losses mean very little. It was all about the Arch for ISUr.

So that's ok for one of the supposed contenders, but Bradley seems to be catching hell for scheduling 2-for-1 deals with inferior competition after a complete overhaul?
I believe it's all about the Arch for the entire conference! That's what happens in one-bid conferences.
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby VUGrad1314 » December 19th, 2017, 9:35 pm

There is no way on God's green Earth that ISUr put that schedule together with their sights set on anything less than an at-large. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. Furthermore you MVC doom and gloomers need to check yourselves. Bradley Valpo UNI Drake and ISUr are going to be even better ISUb should improve Loyola will still be good SIU should be solid. So should MSU. ISUr Bradley UNI and Valpo are going to schedule up. We're hopefully adding Murray State and another quality program. This is going to be a consistent multi-bid league soon just you watch. Have you seen the schedule ISUr is putting together? They'll have a more experienced team and most of those games will be at home. I expect them to win a lot of games.
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby Rollbird5 » December 19th, 2017, 10:09 pm

VUGrad1314 wrote:There is no way on God's green Earth that ISUr put that schedule together with their sights set on anything less than an at-large. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. Furthermore you MVC doom and gloomers need to check yourselves. Bradley Valpo UNI Drake and ISUr are going to be even better ISUb should improve Loyola will still be good SIU should be solid. So should MSU. ISUr Bradley UNI and Valpo are going to schedule up. We're hopefully adding Murray State and another quality program. This is going to be a consistent multi-bid league soon just you watch. Have you seen the schedule ISUr is putting together? They'll have a more experienced team and most of those games will be at home. I expect them to win a lot of games.


Muller always schedules for a chance at an at-large bid just this year some unlucky breaks happen and we were left w/o 4 of our projected top 8/9 guys (Copeland, Clarence, Ndiaye, Romine). With all those guys maybe we win another 2-3 games or maybe not who knows. Next year we should have a good shot at putting together an at-large resume with no seniors on the roster assuming the main core doesn't transfer
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby VUGrad1314 » December 19th, 2017, 10:23 pm

Rollbird5 wrote:
Muller always schedules for a chance at an at-large bid


I hope Valpo has the same mentality now that we're here.
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby Mikovio » December 20th, 2017, 7:30 am

Rollbird5 wrote:Muller always schedules for a chance at an at-large bid

Does he? Last year their noncon SOS was 173, with Ft. Wayne, Ferris State, IUPUI, UT-Martin, St. Joseph's. A lot better this year though.
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 20th, 2017, 8:25 am

BradleyFan71 wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Dansen wrote:
Not as bad as that home loss to Charleston Southern (Kenpom #301, RPI 300)


Phil Fayne was at a funeral against Murray (left with 7 scholarship players to play)

Milik Yarbrough was benched against Charleston Southern (again left with 7 scholarship players to play).


We were never getting an at large with 8 scholarship athletes for our entire non-conference slate. These losses mean very little. It was all about the Arch for ISUr.


So that's ok for one of the supposed contenders, but Bradley seems to be catching hell for scheduling 2-for-1 deals with inferior competition after a complete overhaul?
I believe it's all about the Arch for the entire conference! That's what happens in one-bid conferences.



I am sure you follow your arch enemy Illinois State enough to know why it became all about the Arch for us once those injuries/personal reasons/ineligible things occurred in preseason. We were never getting an at large playing with 7-8 scholarship players for which 2-3 are end of bench scholarship athletes. You have to know this given your assumed hatred for all things Redbirds.

I never really was giving you major crap over your schedule other than to pump the brakes on expectations and excitement given how sh**** your schedule truly is this year.
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Re: MVC Thriving Despite Loss of WSU

Postby squirrel » December 20th, 2017, 8:32 am

Obviously, yes, SOS plays a factor in it. Doesn't change the fact that Joe Fan isn't going to know or even care when he checks the standings and sees the 4 privates on top.

Nevertheless, SOS aside, this is dreamland for Bradley, who has been among the worst teams in DI several years running now. SOS or not, it's a big step forward.
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