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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby MVCfans » December 6th, 2017, 9:19 pm

ACECARD wrote:Looks like bad night for the Valley. Loyola only winner.

While true, the national narrative will focus only on the Loyola win.
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Postby Dansen » December 6th, 2017, 9:20 pm

ACECARD wrote:Looks like bad night for the Valley. Loyola only winner.


Pretty disappointing that Loyola has a top 5 win and it's a bad night for the Valley
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby TheAsianSensation » December 6th, 2017, 9:22 pm

Signature night for the league. I will trade a couple bad losses for that signature win any day of the week.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby VUGrad1314 » December 6th, 2017, 9:25 pm

Great win by Loyola but what the heck happened to everyone else tonight? I go to watch the final few minutes of the Loyola game thinking we're looking at a respectable 3-2 night and then I check back and we're staring 1-4 in the face? Oh well at least we got the big one. Big day tomorrow . Go Valpo! and Go UNI! As always Go MVC!
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby jsaluki080 » December 6th, 2017, 9:36 pm

Great win, Loyola!
Come on rest of the MVC, you're letting the young-blood members show us up. Are they going to be the #1 and #2 teams in our conference?
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby Blers » December 6th, 2017, 9:41 pm

pafan wrote:From watching a few minutes of this game, I'm left wondering what Loyola's weakness is. They seem to have good talent everywhere.


Depth will really be tested having lost Custer. The only thing i would say is our size passed Krutwig is limited to 6'6' wing types. But this team really hasn't shown too many weaknesses. The boise game was so hard to judge based on how tired we looked from the get go with travel and Boise hitting 17 three pointers.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby hot nuts » December 6th, 2017, 9:56 pm

Awesome win Ramblers! As a Redbird fan I always liked Porter. I'm happy with Muller but was not pleased with the firing of Coach Moser.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 7th, 2017, 8:08 am

hot nuts wrote:Awesome win Ramblers! As a Redbird fan I always liked Porter. I'm happy with Muller but was not pleased with the firing of Coach Moser.


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Congrats to Loyola! Huge win for the pedigree of this conference, even with the night going 1-4.

As an aside, it's really hard to watch our Redbirds right now when they are only going 7-8 deep due to injuries and using end of bench players to get to that number. When will we ever get healthy?
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby BEARZ77 » December 7th, 2017, 8:18 am

Great win for LOC, and a true Roadie to add. It is an extremely interesting year so far and one has to wonder if things remain the same thru noncon as regards to conference RPI's and extendly some of the team RPI's, how that shakes out come selection Sunday. Will subjective names rule out or will the objective rankings really hold play in the decision making process. Strange as it seems, despite some marque road wins name wise for conference teams[ Indiana/ISUb, Florida/LOC] and quality tournament wins by UNI , to date the two highest ranked wins by RPI are Bradleys take down of #34 Georgia Southern and Missouri States road win vs #35 Western Kentucky. Indiana sits at #175 and Florida at #110 despite being the #5 team in polls.

Now the numbers will change from an individual team standpoint once conference season starts and teams like W.Kentucky start playing low RPI conference foes and teams like Florida start playing quality SEC teams like Missouri and Kentucky. The win against Florida will remain highly ranked and wins against Georgia Southern and W. Kentucky will be diminished. But conference RPI's do not change much, so if most of the MVC teams can maintain rank for another 3 weeks, then there will be opportunity for top 100 wins during conference play. So a couple high noncon wins along with 4-5 top 100 conference wins all of sudden has more Valley teams with comparable credentials from an objective numbers standpoint similar to what happened in 2006. Very Intriguing. There will either be some egregious omits for quality mids [ most likely] or much growling and gnashing of teeth [preferable] by mediocre majors who didn't perform well in the noncon. Most years there aren't enough mids with quality noncon wins + high RPI conference wins to beat the rationale used by the committee, this year could be different.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby Dansen » December 7th, 2017, 9:20 am

Interesting tidbit:

Loyola's top-5 win yesterday marked the 31st top-5 non league win in MVC history, but marked the first top-5 non-league win on the road since Dec. 6 1967 (exactly 50 years), when then-MVC member Louisville beat No. 5 Kansas, 57-51


Been a long time since MVC has done it on the road, and exactly 50 years is pretty crazy
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby Cdizzle » December 7th, 2017, 10:06 am

Congrats to LUC on the big win last night!

On a more personal level, thanks for helping get Florida out of our way in the polls!
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby uniftw » December 7th, 2017, 10:26 am

Still a ways to go, but the MVC is really setting up a case for 2 or 3 bids right now if UNI, Valpo, MSU and LUC finish OOC play strong.
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