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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby All-MVC Fan » December 7th, 2017, 10:38 am

Way to go Ramblers! Enjoy this accomplishment, but don't let it become your whole season!

Great win for LOC!!!
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Postby ahunte1 » December 7th, 2017, 11:13 am

musiccity should get a bonus in the pickem pool :)

Now... Let's go Valpo!
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby BEARZ77 » December 7th, 2017, 11:31 am

uniftw wrote:Still a ways to go, but the MVC is really setting up a case for 2 or 3 bids right now if UNI, Valpo, MSU and LUC finish OOC play strong.

A big key will be avoiding the above >150 losses the rest of the way including road losses to such in conference. We start with less opportunity for top 100 wins, so you have to avoid the negative losses or else they just point to those.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby Red » December 7th, 2017, 12:04 pm

BEARZ77 wrote:
uniftw wrote:Still a ways to go, but the MVC is really setting up a case for 2 or 3 bids right now if UNI, Valpo, MSU and LUC finish OOC play strong.

A big key will be avoiding the above >150 losses the rest of the way including road losses to such in conference. We start with less opportunity for top 100 wins, so you have to avoid the negative losses or else they just point to those.

Teams win at large bids, not leagues. Who has a resume shaping up to get an at large? More importantly, who can avoid bad losses in league play?
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby uniftw » December 7th, 2017, 12:11 pm

Red wrote:
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uniftw wrote:Still a ways to go, but the MVC is really setting up a case for 2 or 3 bids right now if UNI, Valpo, MSU and LUC finish OOC play strong.

A big key will be avoiding the above >150 losses the rest of the way including road losses to such in conference. We start with less opportunity for top 100 wins, so you have to avoid the negative losses or else they just point to those.

Teams win at large bids, not leagues. Who has a resume shaping up to get an at large? More importantly, who can avoid bad losses in league play?

If UNI wins 2 of their next 3 D1 games they will have the OOC resume, plus name, to be there for one.

Let's assume a loss to Xavier.

OOC record of 9-3 with an OOC SOS in the 20s
Wins over
SMU
NC State
UNLV
UT-Arlington
Iowa State

All of those will be top 50-100 wins
Losses
North Carolina
Villanova
Xavier

Only losses will be top 10-15 teams.

That OOC resume with, say a 14-4 or 13-5 conference record with splits with Valpo, MSU, LUC and ISUr will get them firmly on the bubble if they don't win in St Louis....assuming the losses aren't Indiana State, Drake, Evansville


Valpo 100% needs to win at least 2 of 3 against Ball State, Northwestern and Purdue - with one being Purdue. They can't afford more than 1 OOC loss with that SOS unless they run 15 or more conference wins with only losses to UNI, MSU or LUC.

Same story for LUC and MSU.

It's possible. Not entirely likely, but possible. Right now UNI is in the best position.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby TheAsianSensation » December 7th, 2017, 5:43 pm

I think UNI is in play with a split of Xavier and N-Iowa St.

If they do that, they'll likely have a 2-3 record vs. Tier 1 teams, which is sufficient. (This is all assuming SMU crawls its way back to Tier 1-neutral). Lose both, and that 1-4 mark might, might be too marginal. UTA is likely going to end up being a Tier 2 game instead of Tier 1, and there's a real chance NCSU falls to Tier 3.

Then again, if you don't lose to Tier 2 and below, you're in good shape.


The one thing working in Valpo's favor is the road/home splits...a real chance to hang a very good road record up, which the committee gobbles up. Their problem is lack of Tier 1 chances. They really might want to split Purdue and Northwestern coming up to feel really good.

Missouri St will be teetering. I count 3 borderline Tier 1 wins (@WKU, N-SDSU, @NDSU). Those are going to end up right on the edge of being Tier 1 or Tier 2 (plus N-GSU has a chance of staying Tier 1).
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby Khan4Cats » December 7th, 2017, 9:05 pm

UNI comes back late to win by 4 62-58. Klint Carlson led the way with 24 points, Spencer Haldeman with 10. Tywhon Pickford with 6 points and 7 boards. Wyatt Lohaus made his season debut and played 11 minutes, 2 points and 2 boards.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » December 7th, 2017, 9:09 pm

Weren’t a couple Shocker fans here claiming UNI’s 200+ RPI years were imminient in a WSU-less Valley? :bow:
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby uniftw » December 8th, 2017, 7:52 am

MissouriValleyUnite wrote:Weren’t a couple Shocker fans here claiming UNI’s 200+ RPI years were imminient in a WSU-less Valley? :bow:

The exciting part for UNI fans is there are only 2 - granted they are important guys that play - seniors.

Our starting line up is

Sophomore
Freshman
Sophomore
Senior
Senior

Our main bench rotation is
Sophomore
Junior
Freshman

With a 4* recruit coming in next year.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 8th, 2017, 10:35 am

uniftw wrote:
MissouriValleyUnite wrote:Weren’t a couple Shocker fans here claiming UNI’s 200+ RPI years were imminient in a WSU-less Valley? :bow:

The exciting part for UNI fans is there are only 2 - granted they are important guys that play - seniors.

Our starting line up is

Sophomore
Freshman
Sophomore
Senior
Senior

Our main bench rotation is
Sophomore
Junior
Freshman

With a 4* recruit coming in next year.


So far I was dead wrong about the prospects of the UNI season (and I am very happy about that). I did not expect the progress of your Freshmen from last year, nor the incoming Freshman making that big of an impact like they all have. On paper, it looked bleak. Fortunately, they don't play games on paper.

Also, Carlson has become much more efficient on the offensive end than he was a year ago. Congrats to UNI.
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby ptownbraves » December 9th, 2017, 5:41 pm

A pretty "meh" day so far for the Valley as we squander both games against decent opponents. Illinois State loses at home to Murray State and Valpo loses to Ball State. If we want the premier mid-major conference label, these are the kind of games our top 6 need to come away with.

Loyola beats Norfolk State and Evansville over Canisius. Drake can hopefully avenge their loss against 1-9 Omaha. SIU are the favorites against SEMO later tonight.

Let's go Valley!
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Re: MVC Games - Mon 12/4-Sun 12/10

Postby mvfcfan » December 9th, 2017, 6:38 pm

Indiana State survived against UINDY (D2) 79-75. ISU was down 71-70 going into the 4 minute timeout.
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