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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby Mikovio » January 4th, 2018, 12:57 pm

The way I see it there's 3 tiers of seeding

Top 2 - Get a de facto bye to the semis
3-6 - You have a chance but tough games all 3 days
7-10 - Thursday and screwed-- nobody's winning 4 games in 4 days

Also better to be on the top bracket (1,4,5) so you start earlier and thus more time to rest between games.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby Kip Dynamite » January 4th, 2018, 1:32 pm

Its still very early but if I had to rank teams as of this moment (not based solely on their respective records) it would look like this:

Mo State
Drake
Bradley
UNI
SIU
Loyola
Illinois State
Evansville
Indiana State
Valpo
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby bufan741777 » January 4th, 2018, 2:15 pm

Kip Dynamite wrote:Its still very early but if I had to rank teams as of this moment (not based solely on their respective records) it would look like this:

Mo State
Drake
Bradley
UNI
SIU
Loyola
Illinois State
Evansville
Indiana State
Valpo


I think UNI and ISUr should be flipped. ISUr tends to barely win games and looked better in the beginning of the season but they have significant wins this season. I by no means feel that they will end up playing on Thursday. I think UNI will turn their play around but these early losses may keep them playing on Thursday. There is a good chance they will be 0-3 after today's game. If they win today I would put them in the 5-6 range.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby BCPanther » January 4th, 2018, 3:10 pm

bufan741777 wrote:
Kip Dynamite wrote:Its still very early but if I had to rank teams as of this moment (not based solely on their respective records) it would look like this:

Mo State
Drake
Bradley
UNI
SIU
Loyola
Illinois State
Evansville
Indiana State
Valpo


I think UNI and ISUr should be flipped. ISUr tends to barely win games and looked better in the beginning of the season but they have significant wins this season. I by no means feel that they will end up playing on Thursday. I think UNI will turn their play around but these early losses may keep them playing on Thursday. There is a good chance they will be 0-3 after today's game. If they win today I would put them in the 5-6 range.


SMU, NC State, UNLV and UT Arlington aren't significant wins? Good to know. Even with a loss tonight and as frustrating as UNI always seems to be this time of year, they won't be playing on Thursday. Starting to approach the Creighton streak for years avoiding Thursday. I believe Creighton got to 16 before they left and this will be 14 for UNI.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby musiccitybulldog » January 4th, 2018, 3:37 pm

Espn Bracketology .... 15 seed (so far) ..... http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology

One of the Bulldogs better wins was Wake Forest, they played North Carolina down to the wire, UNC squeaked it out.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby Old School MVC » January 4th, 2018, 3:50 pm

BCPanther wrote:
bufan741777 wrote:
SMU, NC State, UNLV and UT Arlington aren't significant wins? Good to know. Even with a loss tonight and as frustrating as UNI always seems to be this time of year, they won't be playing on Thursday. Starting to approach the Creighton streak for years avoiding Thursday. I believe Creighton got to 16 before they left and this will be 14 for UNI.


An awful BOLD statement from a fan of an 0-2 team. I know you usually start off slow in conference (I can not figure that out either), but those years there are usually quite a few poor teams in the Valley. Not sure that is the case this year.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby bufan741777 » January 4th, 2018, 4:00 pm

Old School MVC wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
bufan741777 wrote:
SMU, NC State, UNLV and UT Arlington aren't significant wins? Good to know. Even with a loss tonight and as frustrating as UNI always seems to be this time of year, they won't be playing on Thursday. Starting to approach the Creighton streak for years avoiding Thursday. I believe Creighton got to 16 before they left and this will be 14 for UNI.


An awful BOLD statement from a fan of an 0-2 team. I know you usually start off slow in conference (I can not figure that out either), but those years there are usually quite a few poor teams in the Valley. Not sure that is the case this year.


They are going to have to pull off some upsets now. Tonight's game is very intriguing to me! This is a big one for the Panthers to turn things around before losses pile up.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby BCPanther » January 4th, 2018, 4:10 pm

Old School MVC wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
bufan741777 wrote:
SMU, NC State, UNLV and UT Arlington aren't significant wins? Good to know. Even with a loss tonight and as frustrating as UNI always seems to be this time of year, they won't be playing on Thursday. Starting to approach the Creighton streak for years avoiding Thursday. I believe Creighton got to 16 before they left and this will be 14 for UNI.


An awful BOLD statement from a fan of an 0-2 team. I know you usually start off slow in conference (I can not figure that out either), but those years there are usually quite a few poor teams in the Valley. Not sure that is the case this year.


2-6 turned into 11-7. 0-5 turned into 9-9 and a 3 seed. Sure the bottom of the league is better but until somebody else surpasses UNIs consistency, I don't think any of us should just assume UNI is a Thursday team because they started 0-2. This roster isn't really any different than the last two years talent wise, just a bit less experienced in the guard court.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby bufan741777 » January 4th, 2018, 4:23 pm

BCPanther wrote:2-6 turned into 11-7. 0-5 turned into 9-9 and a 3 seed. Sure the bottom of the league is better but until somebody else surpasses UNIs consistency, I don't think any of us should just assume UNI is a Thursday team because they started 0-2. This roster isn't really any different than the last two years talent wise, just a bit less experienced in the guard court.


New year, new season. It's a lot easier to stay out of Thursday if you show up ready for conference play from the beginning. Not two weeks in.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby chitown fanatic » January 4th, 2018, 4:38 pm

BCPanther wrote:
bufan741777 wrote:
Kip Dynamite wrote:Its still very early but if I had to rank teams as of this moment (not based solely on their respective records) it would look like this:

Mo State
Drake
Bradley
UNI
SIU
Loyola
Illinois State
Evansville
Indiana State
Valpo


I think UNI and ISUr should be flipped. ISUr tends to barely win games and looked better in the beginning of the season but they have significant wins this season. I by no means feel that they will end up playing on Thursday. I think UNI will turn their play around but these early losses may keep them playing on Thursday. There is a good chance they will be 0-3 after today's game. If they win today I would put them in the 5-6 range.


SMU, NC State, UNLV and UT Arlington aren't significant wins? Good to know. Even with a loss tonight and as frustrating as UNI always seems to be this time of year, they won't be playing on Thursday. Starting to approach the Creighton streak for years avoiding Thursday. I believe Creighton got to 16 before they left and this will be 14 for UNI.


Thursday is still definitely a possibility for the panthers. Youre just not that good this year. You cant score and this Koch is not like the other ones. I think Jacobsen may squeak you by yet again but overcoming another extended O fer start will be tougher this year.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby E-Villan » January 4th, 2018, 4:42 pm

Kip Dynamite wrote:Its still very early but if I had to rank teams as of this moment (not based solely on their respective records) it would look like this:

Mo State
Drake
Bradley
UNI
SIU
Loyola
Illinois State
Evansville
Indiana State
Valpo


From what I have seen, I pretty well agree with you at the top....although Drake may actually be 1st. I will give UNI a little room since they do tend to trend upwards during the season. Jacobson knows how to improve deficiencies during the season. I would have Loyola and Illinois State above UNI and SIU. SIU looked bad last night, and squeaked out a 2 point win at home primarily because UE kept shooting itself in the arse. My Thursdays for right now would be UE, SIU, InSU and Valpo.

These are all subject to change after this weekend.
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Re: MVC team standing prediction

Postby Old School MVC » January 4th, 2018, 4:43 pm

BCPanther wrote:2-6 turned into 11-7. 0-5 turned into 9-9 and a 3 seed. Sure the bottom of the league is better but until somebody else surpasses UNIs consistency, I don't think any of us should just assume UNI is a Thursday team because they started 0-2. This roster isn't really any different than the last two years talent wise, just a bit less experienced in the guard court.


Just like I don't think any of us should just assume UNI is NOT a Thursday team because they haven't been the last 13 years.

I do not think they are a Thursday team either, but I can not say it with much confidence right now.
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